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Subj: Re: Secret Invasion and Ms. Marvel? [solicits] [SPOILERS]
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 at 11:53:13 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: Secret Invasion and Ms. Marvel? [solicits] [SPOILERS]
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 at 01:07:42 pm EST

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> While I've said before that Marvel would be inviting a repeat of the "You've been reading about a clone for 20 years" Ben Reilly Debacle if they revealed the star of a solo book had been a Skrull long-term, and even a short-term Skrull-replacement of a major character would be a bad move that could potentially invalidate massive chunks of Civil War.

The sole reason I think you're wrong here is that they did this to Larsen's Wolverine a few years back and nobody batted an eye. \:\) I'm not sure anyone was even surprised!

> But on the other hand, to convince us that Secret Invasion _IS_ A Big Deal, they probably do have to have some Big Skrull Reveals, and the key rule to predicting stuff like this for modern comics Events is "Who's the biggest name they can afford to lose". In terms of solo books, Ms Marvel and She-Hulk are probably the only ones who they can easily afford to reveal as being Skrulls for, well, any length of time, and not have to worry about outraged fans too much. And of those two, Ms Marvel is the one that would actually have impact on the Avengers right here and now.

Agreed. It doesn't hurt that we know there's a Jen-Skrull in She-Hulk right now, so that loses the element of surprise there.

> I don't _THINK_ they'll do this, and are just teasing it to try and draw attention to the book, but if they WERE going to feed someone's solo book to the Skrulls, she's the best option for them. And check out her sudden change of opinions on superhuman registration, post-Civil War, and tell me that wouldn't fit for a great "now it's a Skrull" switch?

Good point. I'm sure from the solicits that she's not been replaced for long, but an outsider finding out she's been imitated at all could suspect she's been a Skrull for years, and that adds to the drama...


TJB

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> > While I've said before that Marvel would be inviting a repeat of the "You've been reading about a clone for 20 years" Ben Reilly Debacle if they revealed the star of a solo book had been a Skrull long-term, and even a short-term Skrull-replacement of a major character would be a bad move that could potentially invalidate massive chunks of Civil War.
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> The sole reason I think you're wrong here is that they did this to Larsen's Wolverine a few years back and nobody batted an eye. \:\) I'm not sure anyone was even surprised!

The big different is that Skrullverine took over Logie's book for about 6 issues, all by one writer, who stood up at the time and admitted it was all planned from the start. You start messing around with long-term Skrull replacements that go back years, you're going to cheese fandom off, the more so, the more important/popular the character.

> > But on the other hand, to convince us that Secret Invasion _IS_ A Big Deal, they probably do have to have some Big Skrull Reveals, and the key rule to predicting stuff like this for modern comics Events is "Who's the biggest name they can afford to lose". In terms of solo books, Ms Marvel and She-Hulk are probably the only ones who they can easily afford to reveal as being Skrulls for, well, any length of time, and not have to worry about outraged fans too much. And of those two, Ms Marvel is the one that would actually have impact on the Avengers right here and now.
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> Agreed. It doesn't hurt that we know there's a Jen-Skrull in She-Hulk right now, so that loses the element of surprise there.

Yeah, I can't see that book actually being much hit by this, I was just naming it as one of Marvel's few other solo books that credibly could tie into Secret Invasion, that isn't a Silver Age Big Name, nor a major cash-cow for Marvel, thus making her more "expendable" than others.

> > I don't _THINK_ they'll do this, and are just teasing it to try and draw attention to the book, but if they WERE going to feed someone's solo book to the Skrulls, she's the best option for them. And check out her sudden change of opinions on superhuman registration, post-Civil War, and tell me that wouldn't fit for a great "now it's a Skrull" switch?
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> Good point. I'm sure from the solicits that she's not been replaced for long, but an outsider finding out she's been imitated at all could suspect she's been a Skrull for years, and that adds to the drama...

Exactly. There's nothing wrong with Marvel raising the possibility that people we've been reading about for years have been Skrulls for ages, or even all along since Day One, but actually pulling the trigger on it? That'd be such a minefield, and a problem to make it work for all but the most minor of characters.


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