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Subj: $164,000,000,000.00 (±3%)
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 04:23:23 pm EST
Reply Subj: Oh really?
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 12:14:50 am EST

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> Stark,reed,namor,blackbolt,xavier, strange have made things worse in the 616. Think about it itwas them who invaded the skrull world and confronted the skrulls which led them to get captured and the lessons learned by the skrulls allowed them to create these new super skrulls.

As much as they may have angered the Skrulls with that, even if they never did it, what are the chances that the Skrulls would honestly stop trying to invade Earth? Seriously.

> Also now thanks to them taking the infinty gems the skrulls have the space gem.

That all depends on how long Black Bolt has been a Skrull, no? We don't know yet.

> Also the hulk decision backfired on them(except xavier) when the hulk came back mader and stronger then before with new allies and smarter and the combined war devestated new york.(I know they didn't land him on the planet or blew the ship up killing his wife but they had to know he would be back and he would be angry for screwing him and the tape of them admditing it was stupid.

Actually, for them (as opposed to for us readers), it wasn't really predictible/inevitable/probably, or even plausible, that he'd ever be able to return from where they were intending to send him. And let's face it, if Hulk lived on your planet, we'd pretty much all be in support of launching him into space.

Admitting what they'd done to him was a bad move, born of their absolute belief there'd be no way back home for him.

> And the indvidual members have caused numerous things on there own. Stark created weather satilites that were later used by Ultron to cause damages

So Stark should give up his job of inventing things in case Ultron should ever steal them?

> and lets not forget stark knew parts of dta from ultron where still there and didn't do anything about it.

He didn't exactly have much chance to do anything about it between #6-7, did he now?

> Reed and Stark and Pym created clor and it went screwy and killed golaith and also turned a powerful possible ally agianst stark in thor.

Yes, they have a death on their hands, and Hank is at least guilt-ridden over that. But as for Thor, who knew
a) Thor would ever be back?
b) Thor was anti-cloning?
c) Thor would cretinously blame Stark for something Reed and Hank did?

> Also we know all the spin tech and tech for the inative and thunder bolts are going to fall in enemy hands.

Stark and the Initiative aren't directly running the Thunderbolts. Whatever happens there, they're not to blame. And the Initiative's infiltrator is with Hydra, and thus doomed to fail worse than the Initiative ever could.

> With all the mistrust between super heros and starks side it is so open the door for the skrulls.

And yet most of the superhero community IS now registered and on Stark's side. All that's left are a couple of groups who can't accept that the war's over, and their side lost.

> > Also the hulk decision backfired on them(except xavier) when the hulk came back mader and stronger then before with new allies and smarter and the combined war devestated new york.(I know they didn't land him on the planet or blew the ship up killing his wife but they had to know he would be back and he would be angry for screwing him and the tape of them admditing it was stupid.
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> Actually, for them (as opposed to for us readers), it wasn't really predictible/inevitable/probably, or even plausible, that he'd ever be able to return from where they were intending to send him. And let's face it, if Hulk lived on your planet, we'd pretty much all be in support of launching him into space.
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> Admitting what they'd done to him was a bad move, born of their absolute belief there'd be no way back home for him.

I refer the Rt. Hon. Gentleman to the record on the matter:

1) At the time they launched him into space, Hulk was living peacefully in Alaska. Other than the time he was driven mad by a Gamma Bomb *he was trying to defuse for the US Government* and thus can plead that he literally wasn't in control of his actions, when was the last time he actually caused major property damage? The last time I can think of was back in Byrne's excreable run.
2) It's the MU. They have access to the record we as readers have access to. Strange booted the Hulk off-Earth and into wacky dimensions. Alpha Flight brought him back. He was apparently vapourised by a gamma bomb. He came back in Vegas. He had a nuke dropped on him while fighting Thor. He came back. (Oh, and Maestro was stripped down to the bones. He came back.). And that's before we consider all the NON-Hulk improbable coinkydinks that brought people implausibly back from the dead or exile - hell, Hulk just happened to bump into the Silver Surfer of all people on Sakaar. What are the odds of THAT? Which brings up the point that, considering how close the Annihilation Wave came to Earth while the Hulk was over the other side of the universe, the Bugs could well have hit the planet he was meant to land on. What odds Hulk wouldn't have pulled a Drax and pointed an A-Wave ship, not at Thanos, but at Earth?
3) $164,000,000,000.00 (±3%) [One hundred and sixty-four BILLION dollars]. That's what WWH is going to cost the MU US Gov in NYC reconstruction costs ALONE, per WWHAS:Damage Control #1. Then there's the cost of the evacuation, suing for lost business, etc. And after that, THEY STILL AREN'T RID OF THE HULK, as I'm sure you've seen from the solicit for Teh Lobe's Hulk #4.

> > Reed and Stark and Pym created clor and it went screwy and killed golaith and also turned a powerful possible ally agianst stark in thor.
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> Yes, they have a death on their hands, and Hank is at least guilt-ridden over that. But as for Thor, who knew
> a) Thor would ever be back?
> b) Thor was anti-cloning?
> c) Thor would cretinously blame Stark for something Reed and Hank did?

a) See Hulk. Hell, they only had Hercules' word Thor was dead in the first place, and he was drunk out his gourd at the time.
b) I suggest that if someone made a clone of you, then that clone went out and murdered someone in public view, you might be a little ticked (see: Peter Parker being arrested and very nearly convicted over someone Kaine killed). I mean, let's for a moment leave aside the whole morality of cloning and what have you - THEY DRESSED CLOR IN A THOR COSTUME, WAVING AROUND A COPY OF MJOLINR. If Mystique had "dressed" as Beast and gone around shooting people in the head in front of forty+ witnesses, I think Hank might have a little reason to be ticked.
c) We've been over this. Firstly, Stark went to Thor, not the other way around. If Thor had any plans to go after Stark, Richards and Pym, it certainly wasn't at the top of his priority list - Richards & Pym apparently have a better sense of self-preservation. Secondly, if it hadn't been for Stark, it wouldn't have happened - it was his idea, and he supplied the DNA sample. He gets at least a third of the blame. Thirdly, Richards was only an acquaintance to Thor rather than a close friend or ally, and Thor was closer to Stark than to Pym. Ergo, him arranging it would hurt most.


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