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Omar Karindu

Subj: Opening the door for Nick Fury's return? NT
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 01:52:02 pm EST
Reply Subj: Poor, doomed Tony Stark....
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 12:58:15 pm EST (Viewed 5 times)

> Arguably (and often convincingly argued to be) right on about the need to regulate supers and banish the Hulk, but defeated before he starts because he appears in superhero comics and hasn't worked that critical fact out. If he'd just listened to She-Hulk, all of this could have been avoided...
> More seriously, though, Marvel really have set Tony up to fall hard downt he line, if only because superhero comics tend to read much better when the heroes are outside the system than when they're in it. There's a reason we like seeing the X-Men blow up billions of dollars in giant purple robots built with our tax dollars, and why Claremont was able to refit Magneto as a charismatic revolutionary rather than a ranting megalomaniac.
> As long as Marvel needs to publish Spider-Man and Daredevil and Luke Cage, the SHRA will be flouted constantly; as long as there's a Hulk book (or two, these days), banishing big green is just going to bring him back madder than ever and looking for payback; and as long as Tony Stark is trying to rein in and regulate the superheroes for the good of those insignificant background ciphers who don't even appear on panel most of the time, all he really does is get in the way of big spectacular super-battles and wacky misunderstood outlaw heroes and audience-identification rookie heroes.
> The SHRA and all that are perfectly, rationally, and logically right and good and smart if you're thinking about super-powers as if they existed in the real world. In the context of publishing superhero comics, though, they wind up sacrificing entertainment on the altar of an especially anal notion of plausibility. It's right up there with worrying about the contractors who worked on the Death Star, which makes for good geek conversation now and then but hardly enhances a viewing of Return of the Jedi.
> I don't care about Miriam Sharpe and her poor dead son I'd never heard of before Civil War #1 anywhere near as much as I care about Namorita, a character who actually appeared in stories and in whom it was therefore possible to be invested. (I don't care about Speedball, though; I hate the aggressive stupidity that is Penance, but don't really wring my hands about that insignificant bouncy guy.)
> But I really don't care what happens to the made-up and largely off-panel civilians in the made-up America that exists in Mark Millar's head. If they need to blow up and go splat and die horribly to make the stakes of the next big fight bigger, I say kill 'em all. It's not like the story's actually about them, and unlike real people, they have no names, no faces, no personalities, and no relatives (until those are made up too) for me to give one good damn about. I care about Spider-man and Iron Man and the Hulk.
> When the comics are titled "Astonishing Adventures of Innocent Bystander-Man," I'll support the Tony because he fights for them folk. Until then, he's just a plot complication in my comics, annoying and harassing the protagonists I actually wanna read about. I don't really care if he's right in context at that point, because what he's right about doesn't exist anyway and bollixes up the narrative.
> - Omar Karindu
> "A Renoir. I have three, myself. I had four, but ordered one burned...It displeased me." -- Doctor Doom
> "It's not, 'Oh, they killed Sue Dibney and I always loved that character,' it's 'Oh, they broke a story engine that could have told a thousand stories in order to publish a single 'important' one.'" -- John Seavey

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