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Reverend Meteor

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AssemblyRequired

Subj: Re: Chaos War #5
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 at 11:34:56 pm EST (Viewed 15 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Chaos War #5
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 at 10:00:33 pm EST (Viewed 15 times)



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          well in wca he dissambled they need to wonderman's brain but he refused for selfish he wanted wanda for himself for this reason so he became emotionless vision

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          Way back then though, the government intentionally erased his memories and programming. That was part of their goal, because he'd been in control of the entire world's computers when he tried to take over, and they saw him as a threat.

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            This time, he merely got torn in half. Wait a second. Did I say "merely"? He really did get trashed. But who knows where physically in his body that his data is stored? Or how durable that portion is. It could go either way.

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              If I were Vizh, after what happened before, I'd back myself up somehow. Somewhere there's a safety deposit box registered to a Victor Shade that needs to be discovered!

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                Actually, now that you mention Simon being needed, it would make for a great character moment for Simon to spearhead getting the Vision put back together, and then this time he'd step up and give his brain patterns. It could help make up for him not doing it that other time.

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        I always agreed with Simon's choice not to donate his brainwaves back in AWC. His brainwaves were used to create the Vision's personality without his permission the first time...to me it would be about the same as stealing sperm from a freshly dead corpse and later use it to create a baby. It's a violation and Wanda was wrong to ask it of Simon.



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    I've always thought it was an interesting storyline for Simon to feel the way he did. Differing points of view create better stories than the usual good vs evil. But his decision didn't match up with how he and the Vision had been interacting as if they were brothers prior to that. They even were hanging out with Simon's mother at one point. So while I like the plot twist, he did come off as selfish there.


Selfish or not I thought it was his decision to make and he made the one comfortable for him. I don't think he did anything wrong...and I say that as someone who has never liked Simon.


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    The reason I think he would act differently this time is that he's really upset by what happened with Wanda. And, as it is written currently, (I phrase it that way since I'm anxious for a retcon), Wanda has been nuts ever since the Byrne WCA run, when her kids dissapeared and her husband was erased.



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      Simon was Vision's friend but it's not his burden to submit to having his brainwaves copied so Vision can live again.



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    It depends on if you see the Vision as a person or not. What if Cap needed an ionic buzz to stay alive, and the only thing that would save him was a hug from Simon, who refused?


I guess I see it as something like the perception of being obligated to donate your kidney to a brother. It may make you a douchebag not to give it to him but your brother's wife doesn't have the right to demand you give it to your brother. Maybe you don't like your brother, maybe you want to bang his wife, maybe you don't want to lose a kidney in case the other one goes bad...whatever your reason doesn't matter. If you say you're not giving him the kidney that should be the end of it. It's your kidney.


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      The super hero community these days just has no sense of boundaries. You have time traveling brats whining about how their parents never loved them enough and taking it out on their parents before the time travelers were even born. You have clones or alternate reality dopplegangers living with your mom in Smallville eating up all her food and probably not paying any bills. You have whiney wives begging for your brainwaves so they can reanimate their android husbands. You have crazy women artificially inseminating themselves with their dead lovers dna and then rapidly aging their offspring so they can have someone to talk to.



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    LOL! I think that last bit is why Genis and Phyla didn't stick as Captain Marvel. Their origins were just so odd.


I hate Elysius. She violated her dead lover's memory and had a child that just shouldn't exist and then she steals Genis childhood. Evil skank.

Between Genis origin and seeing he planned to murder his and Songbird's future son as an infant in his crib I don't care for the character. The gods granted my wish though when he was murdered by my favorite charscter Baron Helmut Zemo. I don't have qualms with Phyla yet but I would love for Helmut to finish off Elysius too.


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