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Subj: Re: Chaos War #5
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 at 02:32:27 pm EST (Viewed 480 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Chaos War #5
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 at 05:51:16 am EST (Viewed 14 times)
Quote:I guess I see it as something like the perception of being obligated to donate your kidney to a brother. It may make you a douchebag not to give it to him but your brother's wife doesn't have the right to demand you give it to your brother. Maybe you don't like your brother, maybe you want to bang his wife, maybe you don't want to lose a kidney in case the other one goes bad...whatever your reason doesn't matter. If you say you're not giving him the kidney that should be the end of it. It's your kidney.
Once the Vision got his groove back, did he and Simon ever have a conversation about this refusal thing specifically? I do remember the Vision getting upset in a Busiek issue about being "just a copy" of Simon and briefly taking it out on him.
To me Vision has kind of been a pod person since Byrne dismantled him.
Quote:I hate Elysius. She violated her dead lover's memory and had a child that just shouldn't exist and then she steals Genis childhood. Evil skank.
Quote:My only exposure to Genis is from Avengers Forever and then when he was in the Thunderbolts, so I never gave all this much thought. But you're right. It's pretty twisted.
For some reason Elysius creating Genis always reminded me of Gargamel creating Smurfette.
Quote:Between Genis origin and seeing he planned to murder his and Songbird's future son as an infant in his crib I don't care for the character. The gods granted my wish though when he was murdered by my favorite charscter Baron Helmut Zemo. I don't have qualms with Phyla yet but I would love for Helmut to finish off Elysius too.
Quote:Phyla is dead. For now. Killed by Thanos. Supposedly. I don't believe DnA intended to leave her that way, if in fact she was meant to really be dead at all.
Quote:Genis was a bad fit in the Thunderbolts. Sure, he'd gone insane and been a villain for a while, but he didn't really match the T-Bolts profile.
I hated him on Tbolts.
Quote:What do you think about Songbird as an Avenger? I think she deserves a shot.
Yes. I used to be a fan of hers when she was with Mach-1/Abe Jenkins. That's another reason I think I hated Genis...his fated romance with Melissa.
She deserves it...I can't imagine her staying an Avenger long term but it should happen. To me once one of the founding Thunderbolts becomes an Avenger (not a dark avenger like Karla) that means their redemption theme has finally come full circle. Once one has gotten the heights Hawkeye did and became an Avenger then the Thunderbolts journey towards redemption was a worthy endeavor.