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Subj: Re: Chaos War #5
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 at 04:50:27 pm EST (Viewed 10 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Chaos War #5
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 at 08:09:45 pm EST (Viewed 11 times)



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    I don't think girl Smurfs are naturally occurring. Gargamel created Smurfette. The Smurflings created Sassette. Which raises the question of who created Granny Smurf but I guess that's a dark chapter of the smurf mythology we will never know. Maybe Papa Smurf and Grandpa Smurf got drunk on smurf berry juice and dabbled in the dark magics.


Somehow I'm not thinking they'll deal with this in the upcoming movie. Maybe in the Smurfs: First Class prequel that will come out later featuring Azazel instead of Azrael.





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    oh that's a great point. Yeah that was my problem...I liked the love story between Melissa and Abner.


At some point, Mach1 *must* have a child so that they can call it Li'l Abner Jenkins.



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    There aren't many couples these days that are romantic or feel authentic.


A good pairing takes time. You need flirting first. You need some pining away for each other. Maybe some foiled attempts. Or a complication keeping them apart. Nobody writes romance for the long haul any more, maybe because they have no confidence about how long they'll be on the book. Or if their title will even exist after 12 issues. All we get now usually is the shock moment of seeing two people together unexpectedly and the fallout. It's wham bam, thank you maam. Or no thank you.

Plus a lot of the pairings that used to feel authentic from back in the day, like Justice and Firestar, have been broken up. Cyclops/Phoenix. Peter/Mary Jane. Vision/Scarlet Witch...

I enjoyed the brief Nova/Nita rekindling that went on recently, and I was on pins and needles that she wasn't going to survive the resolution of the Cancerverse thing. It didn't occur to me that Nova wouldn't.





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    Luke and Jessica's romance in the comics started with anal sex.


I know! And that was back when she was an interesting character to me. Those two married bores me to death! It doesn't ring true for them to be some big love thing. They were just friends who would occasionally hook up when she was drunk and feeling needy. IIRC, the only reason she dumped Scott Lang was because it wasn't his baby. She and Cage could have raised their kid together without becoming the new "it" couple.

Jessica Jones is unrecognizable now from the screwed up person she was in Alias. She was cool as a screwed up person. That was the whole POINT of her. Without that, she has no reason to exist. Give me somebody else to read about.




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    Just wait until we find about that one night in college when Reed Richards and Victor Von Doom had way too much to drink and Doom got frisky.


Maybe that's when he first got the name Mister Fantastic!




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      There have also been way too many retconned revelations of relationships. Like Sentry and Crystal. Or the White Queen and just about everybody. Even the consistently innocent acting in all her prior appearances Squirrel Girl can't escape it.



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    That's why I will never like Sentry or Jessica Jones. They're clearly Space Phantoms. When things don't make sense...space phantoms.


I don't mind the Sentry being made to have existed. I liked him fine from his original mini, just like I thought Jessica was good in Alias. But then, don't beat us over the head with them and make them the focus of EVERYTHING. They're retconnned characters! By definition, they're not as important as real characters with real history, at least not to the fans.

And geez. If you're going to bother with it, have a plan in mind and do a good character arc. The Senty was a long, drawn out, unsatisying, confusing, ridiculous mess. I have no idea what his true history is supposed to even BE at this point, nor do I care.


Retcons should also be kept to a minimum. Nowadays, half the big plot devolopments that come around are retcons.




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        She deserves it...I can't imagine her staying an Avenger long term but it should happen. To me once one of the founding Thunderbolts becomes an Avenger (not a dark avenger like Karla) that means their redemption theme has finally come full circle. Once one has gotten the heights Hawkeye did and became an Avenger then the Thunderbolts journey towards redemption was a worthy endeavor.

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        Whenever she gets her Avengers ID card, some writer who hasn't even read the original T-Bolts run will have her pick up her cell phone and tell Zemo, "I'm finally in. What do you want me to do?"



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    continuity be damned...I would LOVE that!!!!


I was typing that sarcastically and then part of me had the same reaction. I had to switch it to her being an agent of the Hood to hate it.




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    If we had to respect continuity you could always have Helmut working towards some greater good while manipulating the Avengers...I love when he's a manipulator for the greater good.



Zemo vs Osborn during the Dark Reign could have been fantastic.

If Songbirds mission is to get Wolverine off the team, I would definitely get behind it!




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      Or worse, instead of Zemo, it will be the Hood, retconned to be her *real* lover. And we'll tear the comic in half.



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