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Subj: Re: So, who IS an Avenger anyway?
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 06:28:59 pm EDT (Viewed 32 times)
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 05:16:22 pm EDT (Viewed 392 times)

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The thread below discussing Avengers membership got me to thinking about how open ended the teams have been lately. There are several people that have served terms with the Avengers lately I genuinely don't know if we count as members anymore! To wit:

Nova - Does his one-mission case as a Secret Avenger include him as a member now, or was he just an ally called in by Cap? I think that the roster in Avengers Roll Call included him.

Jewel - Is Jessica an Avenger with Cage's team, or was she just hanging out? No idea, but I think the Avengers Roll Call included her.

Prince of Orphans - John Aman spent more time with the Secret Avengers than Nova, was called in by Cap as Nova's replacement specifically, but isn't on the roster in Avengers Roll Call. Wikipedia calls him an Avenger. Shouldn't he be?

Shang-Chi - Acted as a Secret Avenger against his father, and has been aiding Spider-Man recently, but isn't on the Avengers Roll Call roster but is listed as one on Wikipedia. Member or not?

Skaar - Was clearly an agent of Captain America's infiltrating the Dark Avengers, but does that make him a full-on Avenger? He's not on the Roll Call or Wikipedia.

Speedball - Robbie was a staff member at Avengers Academy, but never served with any Avengers team otherwise. Is he a member?

Lightspeed - She's a teacher's assistant at Avengers Academy, but never was an Avenger. Does that give her Avengers status?

Sharon Carter - Wikipedia states she's a Secret Avengers MEMBER, while I see her as being more of a liasion like Maria Hill or Victoria Hand. Which is it?

At any rate, it'd be nice to see this clarified in story sometime... as well as what Avengers Academy students count as!


Powerwoman was officially a member of Luke's team, no question about that.

Can't count Skaar as an Avenger, just an ally because of the whole Dark Avengers affair.

Good point on the Secret Avengers characters. Nova might have only been around for one mission, but it was a 6 issue mission. Problem with having those long stories with dual use characters. If Nova wasn't destined to "die" he would have stuck around in Secret. Using the old Jocasta rule, think Prince and Shang have to count as allies only. I think we do need an official ruling on Sharon.

Avengers Academy is another problem. Lightspeed probably isn't anymore official than the other students. Stumped on Speedball, depends if the avenging actions of the other teachers is a reservist obligation or not.