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lornelb

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Subj: Re: ummm...I would go back to buy comics with this line up
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 at 02:55:07 pm EDT (Viewed 10 times)
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 at 04:39:03 pm EDT (Viewed 267 times)

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However, I can do with long periods w/o the big three...coming only to deal with the real big battles. That will make them more impresive...
And Wanda a Vision in the roster together again..??. I will buy two copies of each issues ;\)


Lots of interestingthoughts on the Avengers and the preferred teams.

I have been reading and collecting comics for 40 years with the Avengers and the Fantastic Four having been the constants throughout that time period.

I've never been particularly locked into any set of Avengers, it was laways more important to me that whichever Avengers were used be portrayed interestingly and that the storylines be engrossing.

I'll admit, too, that I've always been a character driven reader. That is probably why Hawkeye has always been one of my favorite Avengers. His character has usually been portrayed as cocky, hardnosed and humorous, things which are like catnip to me.

I've noticed that most of the previous preferred line-ups have included Wonderman/Simon. I can also admit that I've never really liked his portrayals. He began as a foil for Zemo to infiltrate that Avengers. He had a change of heart and died heroically. He should have stayed that way, as far as I'm concerned. Since his revival, he's been at turns; cowardly, self-absorbed, a homewrecker, and lately, a maniac bent on destroying the Avengers (The fact that his rationale is strained and inane doesn't help). His buddy/buddy act with the Beast may have been the highlight of his appearances with the Avengers andthat has been @ 35 years ago.

Finally, no one has selected the Thing as a member of the Avengers and I tend to agree with that. Ben is far and away my single most beloved Marvel/comic book creation. He used to embody every single thing I loved about what I considered to be a great comicbook character. He was formidable, terrifying when he had to be, incredibly funny, and completely heroic in the truest since of the word. That incarnation of Ben is many years gone now. With the advent of Wolverine and the different adjustments to the Hulk's portrayal, all that remains of Ben Grimm is a clownish foil to be humiliated or beaten up by any characer boasting the strength to string a couple of one-handed push ups together. In the Avengers, this portrayal is only exacerbated. With the presence of Hawkeye and Spiderman, Ben is no longer the funny character. With Wolverine and the Red Hulk, he is unable to be the "go to" tough guy, or the scary 'ticking time bomb' member that the other teammates need to be wary of. Instead, he is given little to do, very few lines, and usually ends up being brushed aside and knocked unconcsious by some villain named the Purple Pantywaist until one of the more formidible or glamorous team members can dispatch the bad guy.

The truth for me is that one of Bendis' strengths is his ability to create characterization through dialogue. Stan Lee is the only other writer that I can recall whose dialogue managed to entertain and divert me so well through the reading of a given comic.

Old Avengers or new, give me crackling dialogue, Hawkeye and no watered down versions of Ben Grimm, please.


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