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Subj: Re: Doesn't excuse it.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 02:12:59 am EDT (Viewed 7 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Doesn't excuse it.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 at 09:36:31 pm EDT (Viewed 8 times)



      Rapists and characters we've seen kill for the joy of killing just can't be redeemed without the writer completely ignoring the character's past or retconning.


        I didn't realize Whirlwind was that sort of person.

    I'm not sure that I'd word it as killing for the joy of killing.In Whirlwind's case,he paid a prostitute to dress up as Jan and then killed her. That's the kind of character that's difficult to redeem. Similarly, in Emma Frost's case, she killed three men in her first appearance for failing to capture the X-Men even though the Club captured them five minutes later. And in Frenzy's case, she killed Sharon Friedlander out of pure racism. All of these murders are different from killing an enemy or a murder for hire- they're the kind of murders that make a villain impossible to redeem.


I wasn't ascribing the "joy of killing" thing to anybody in particular. Sabertooth did come to mind though.

There's a difference to me as a reader in how I view a character who kills casually or unnecessarily from somebody who kills for a reason. Not that it's good to kill ever, mind you!

Someone who tortures their victim would also be unredeemable in my eyes.

I had forgotten about Emma doing that in her first appearance. Yikes!

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