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Subj: Re: Avengers Vs. X-Men: MAJOR SPOILER!
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 07:28:34 pm EDT (Viewed 266 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Avengers Vs. X-Men: MAJOR SPOILER!
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 03:41:32 pm EDT (Viewed 259 times)



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      So it's what we all expected. RIP Charles - perhaps your ungrateful children will value you more in death than they did in your final years. That being said - this is what, his fourth death?

    Depends on what you mean by death.

    1. In Uncanny X-Men v1 #42, he was just pretending.
    2. In Uncanny X-Men v1 #167, his old body died, but he was quickly given a new one. One could argue that this Xavier was actually born on this day.
    3. At the end of Messiah Complex, he didn't really die. He was spirited away before he could die and fixed up.
    4. Now.


Here's what I have:

1. In [Uncanny] X-Men #42 back in the 1960's, the readers thought that Professor X was dead and buried. However, Roy Thomas apparently killed him off with a secret plan to bring him back if necessary, which he did in #65 (although IIRC, Denny O'Neil actually did the dialog over a Thomas/Neal Adams plot).

2. Age of Apocalypse began when Legion went back in time and accidentally killed his father (Xavier). This was undone by Bishop at the end of the storyline.

3. Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch's actions at the beginning of House of M created a world where Xavier had apparently once again died before the X-Men could be created. (Yes, I read "Children's Crusade" - Wanda may have been manipulated by Doctor Doom.) After the original timeline is restored (except for the "No New Mutants" part) Xavier is also restored but missing and subsequently located.


So in #1 the readers all thought Xavier was dead for an extended period, and in #2 and #3 Xavier-616 had really died in an altered timeline that continued for several months. The Messiah Complex case had neither of these, so I'm not counting it.

That would indeed make this Xavier's fourth death, and it appears that it will stay that way for the foreseeable future (see the interview with BMB at http://marvel.com/news/story/19365/avengers_vs_x-men_fatality). Actually, Bendis is using some of the same logic in killing off Xavier that Roy Thomas used i.e. it's time for Xavier's students to move on. However, I'm sure ways to bring him back someday if the story dictated it have already been concocted (the person who suggested having his astral form survive gave a good argument for that).








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