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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 at 10:31:36 am EDT (Viewed 302 times)
Reply Subj: Wasn't There An Issue/Storyline Where Sabretooth Was A Founding Member Of The Avengers (Along With Nick Fury, Etc.)? Retconning The Original Avengers.
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 at 02:35:10 am EDT (Viewed 239 times)

    I know that this happened under Bendis (Surprise!), but there was an issue (Or storyline, or arc, or whatever.) that he wrote where he had another group of Avengers forming before the original (The Hulk, Thor, Wasp, Iron Man, Ant Man, etc.) formed. I guess that this was one of those Avengers before the Avengers deals/storylines/concepts. It's a promising idea actually, but it's probably going to(o) be one of those stories that will never get referrenced again (Although maybe it will. It'll remain in continuity, I'm almost certain, the odds of it getting mentioned or brought up again though, I don't see as likely. But, who knows?), but I think that Fury was leading them, and Creed (Sabretooth.) was a member. What was that about? Didn't they do the same thing with Baron Von Strucker as well? Didn't they retcon it so that him and Nick Fury worked together once as well? Writers really seem to(o) go all over the place with good old Creed don't they? Usually he's a sadistic monster, but sometimes he's an anti-hero, sometimes he's an anti-villian, sometimes he's just doing his own thing, and sometimes he's just downright bloodthirstry and sadistic. But while I like the idea of him being a secret op (And him and Wolverine being partners. I don't want them being related, but I do really like the Team X history that was established between the two of them,) I REALLY don't like Creed being associated with any team of Avengers. It's one of those retcon stories I guess. Does anyone know who else was on the team? Thanks.

Reaveled in New Avengers v2 #10.

The idea even got a miniseries written by Howard Chaykin (its only saving grace). I don't know why they needed to change the concept. They already have an Avengers-before-the-Avengers, at about the same time: Agents of Atlas.

The team was:
Nick Fury
Dum Dum Dugan
Dominic Fortune
Kraven the Hunter
Ulysses Bloodstone
Silver Sable
Blonde Phantom

    By the way, what's going on with Creed now anyway? I know that he's back from the dead (God---it!), but did they explain how he survived his (What was supposed to be permanent.) beheading. Thanks.

It's much more mundane than Goddidit. The one that Wolverine decapitated with his magic sword was a clone. Romulus (the Roman wolf guy) cloned a bunch of Sabretooths. During the story, Wolverine is knocked out. He wakes up in the Weapon X facility and finds a bunch more clones and the REAL Sabretooth, who he recognizes by scent... which begs the question of why he didn't recognize the clones' scents.

And of course there's the question of how Sabretooth was chained up in Hell. But I'll stick to my theory of "everything you see in the afterlife is a lie (even when it ain't)."

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