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TJ Burns

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Mr Bojo

Member Since: Sat Dec 01, 2012
Subj: Re: Accurate Roster?
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 at 04:44:52 pm EST (Viewed 12 times)
Reply Subj: Accurate Roster?
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 at 09:59:46 am EST (Viewed 305 times)

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Avengers Roster:

Hank Pym (Antman,Giantman, Goliath, Yellowjacket, Doctor Pym, Wasp II)
Wasp
Ironman
Thor
Hulk
CaptainAmerica
Hawkeye
Quicksilver
Scarlet Witch
Hercules
Black Panther
Vision
BlackKnight
Black Widow
Swordsman (joined Avengers #20, membership taken away when discovered he betrayed them. Reformed and reinstated. Recommended full membership from Thor)
Mantis
Moondragon
Beast
Hellcat
Two Gun Kid (My thought he was granted Avenger status when he went into battle with Thor and Hawkeye. Possibly even Moondragon granted full status.)
Captain Marvel (Ms. MARVEL, Warbird)
Wonderman (Accepted on probationary member Avengers #9, betrayed team and status was taken away. Reinstated as probationary member after battle with Gravitron. )
Falcon
Jocasta
Tigra
She Hulk
Spectrum (Captain Marvel, Pulsar, Photon)
Starfox
Mockingbird
Iron Patriot (Ironman, War Machine) (Was told during first Secret Wars though on leave he was with the Avengers, this may have given him official status or just to clarify among the other heroes. It was revealed later on Prof Xavier and Reed Richards knew of Ironman's identity.)
Namor
Thing
Moon Knight
Doctor Druid
D-man
Mister Fantastic
Invisible Woman
Gilgamesh (Hero, Hercules, Forgotten One)
USAgent
Quasar
Espirita
Human Torch
Sersi
Spiderman
Stingray
Rage (status in question. When found out he was underage he had his membership downgraded to Avenger in Training. Later he hijacked a quinjet and he was expelled. It might have been reinstated after Morgan Le Fay battle.)
Sandman (left in a huff, has been stated in other posts he was only a reserve, never a full member. My thought an Avenger is an Avenger. Plus there were two times he status was upgraded to full when filling in during the substitute Avenger status was implemented. When the Avengers battled the Sinister Six Captain America offered him reinstatement. His mind was scrambled by the Wizard. This has never been addressed.)
Spider Woman (Madame Web, Arachne)
Living Lightning
Thunderstrike
Crystal
Darkhawk
Justice
Firestar
Triathalon (3D Man)
Silverclaw
Jack Of Hearts
Antman
Lion Heart

Cage
Wolverine
Ronin (Echo)
Sentry (does anyone know if his status was taken away for his role in Siege?)
Iron Fist
Doctor Strange
Ares
Captain America
Spiderwoman
Vision
Stature
Cho
Captain Britain
Protector (was his status taken away for his betrayal)
Red Hulk
Flux
Valkyrie
Antman
Shang Chi
Storm
Quake
Venom


Havok
Rogue
Sunfire
Cannonball
Sunspot
Manifold
Hyperion
Captain Universe
Smasher
Abyss
Ex Nihlo
Nightmask
Starbrand
Victor
Adam
Blade
Powerman
White Tiger

I listed, but wasn't sure of Cho and Stature due to there age. I didn't list Agent 13 and Agent Hill, thinking it was more of an assignment. Ironman (Teen Tony, though listed as honorary I thought had full status. I felt the original Captain Marvel was given reserve status.)


That gives them 100 members.


Mr Bojo

The Guardians of the Galaxy having full status was confirmed in New Warriors #1, when the security system recognized Justice as the Guardians' Vance Astro. They had to be given full membership to avoid Gyrich freaking out... not that they ever used it.

Two-Gun's official Avengers status has been explained as a way to give him some sort of legal standing in the 20th Century. Either way, he's an Avenger officially and fully... and at SOME point, he will serve an active term as one, according to his personal timeline.

Hellcat's status is something of a nightmare... Englehart intentionally had her NOT join at the end of his run, but she's definitely a member by #305. Most accounts just say "Screw it" and call her joining in the 140s. I do too, to be honest.

Marinna has as much right to call herself an Avenger as anyone, and is certainly given SOME status during her time with the team. The Avengers seem to see her as being one of them, and she's in the Handbook.

Rita DeMara as Yellowjacket is a WEIRD case. She definitely is recruited for a temporary line-up by Cap, making her as much of an Avenger as D-Man, but doesn't stick around... but by the time she joins up with the GOTG in the future, she seems to view herself as an Avenger. Furthermore, she also references some relationship with Hank Pym that has yet to take place on panel in some of the GOTG backups. I call her a member, but the arguement works both ways.

Englehart swears he never had the Thing join, but that's blatantly contradicted by what he actually wrote and was published. Either way, he's a member by #305. Same for Firebird, who has reverted to that codename.

Rage angrily reminds people he IS an Avenger in the Initiative title, and nobody argues. Good enough for me.

Machine Man has actually managed to participate in 4 or 5 Avengers cases, was officially removed from the roster after he attempted to murder Justice and Firestar due to some Sentinel programming, and has been re-recruited since. He's a member.

Note that the entirety of the Young Avengers and Avengers Academy kids are given official Avengers status on-panel. So they count, whether we like it or not. Personally? I'm torn.

The Handbook treats Agent 13 as an Avenger. I hate this more than words can say. The same book ignores that the Prince of Orphans joins on-panel and officially. I hate this even MORE than the other.

Daredevil officially joined in New Avengers near the end, around the same time as Storm. I'll note that while he did nothing of value in the actual title, he made the most of his membership in his own book, like Thunderstrike before him. Either way, he's official.

Captain Mar-Vell is officially inducted into the Avengers as of his death. I count him as a real member, solely because he's on the roster in three of the Avengers greatest stories. (Kree-Skrull War, Thanos War, and Korvac Saga.)


TJB


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