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Omar Karindu

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Reverend Meteor

Subj: Re: The riddle of Kazantra...Thanos's other mother
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 at 01:28:34 pm CST (Viewed 197 times)
Reply Subj: Re: The riddle of Kazantra...Thanos's other mother
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 at 12:56:05 pm CST (Viewed 9 times)

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    Ah, but recall, Eros didn't start out with any such power. Under Starlin, he was super-strong and possibly was meant to have the same energy powers as Mentor. More broadly, since Starlin was riffing on the Fourth World stuff, Eros could have been something along the lines of Lightray.



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    But it's true that Eros's power as later established wasn't much, especially not against a villain who's whole *problem* is that he has for many a time been way more than half in love with less-than-easeful Death.



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    And while there's nothing wrong with being a hedonist superdoer, it helps if, like Sersi, you can bring it against party crashers, space pirates, and would-be world-enders. Eros, as you note, can't.


Well with the exception of Thanos who has had enhancements I always assumed the Titan Eternals were a bit weaker than the Earth Eternals.



Right, but when Starlin first created these guys, they were intended as offshoots of the Greek gods with (potentially) a variety of powers linked to the concepts they represented. Instead, Thanos is a self-made cosmic tank and Mentor can toss around a few power bolts. Kirby hadn't even created the Eternals at the original time of publication, and the Titans weren't named as Eternals until somewhere in the 1980s. I can't recall if this was Roy Thomas in Thor or Roger Stern in Avengers, or someone else entirely, who cemented the notion that the Titans were Earth Eternal offshoots. And then there's the Uranian Eternals who are tied up with Quasar and 1950s Marvel Boy and have been retconned two or three times over, too.

In continuity terms, it's interesting that Mentor has some form of the Eternal energy powers, but his children with Sui-San (or Kazantra?) are, in different ways, way off-model for Eternal powers. Thanos is a mutant Eternal, which isn't supposed to be possible -- Eternals are perfectly genetically stable in contrast to the radically genetically unstable Deviants -- and Eros lacks the energy powers and instead has only a very specific psionic ability plus the standard flying brick talents.

Many years ago (like 10+), there was a MASSIVE thread on this board where we looked at the sprawling, weird, and mysterious continuity connections between the Celestial Madonna stuff, the Eternals/Celestials/Deviants of many worlds, Starlin's Thanos sagas, and some other cosmic hoo-ha. It's surprising how many things pull together. As I recall, we ended up thinking the Cotati were up to something. That's long since vanished, so there's no reason not to try it all again here, especially now that newer and stranger things have happened with some of those properties….




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