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Quote:And as we discussed in another old thread, one of the Skrull "normals" we've seen -- Prime Skrull -- actually seems to have Eternal-like atomic restructuring powers, unlike Kly'bn (before his godhood) and "throwback" Talos the Untamed. Maybe he has the SAkrull equivalent of the x-gene?
Quote:Yes I don't remember if Blackwulf stated Prime Skrull was a mutant of the humanoid branch of his species but I've always assumed that's what he had to be. The one real example we have of a normal Skrull is in fact not normal but is a mutant.
Actually, Prime Skrull was NOT a mutant member of the Skrullian Normals. The Blackwulf series explicitly showed that he only gained his atomic-restructuring powers after being injected with the "evolution formula" which the US Air Force had created by draining adrenaline from a captured shape-shifting "unstable" Skrull and then purifying it with adrenaline from the stable Skrull. Both the Prime Skrull and Scorch got their new powers by being injected with that formula.
Quote:Srkull Deviants also seem unlike Earth Deviants; rather than having wildly different forms with each generation, they just don't have a fixed form for any individual. But compared ot Earth Deviants, they're much more stable as a phenotype
Quote:Eventually the Skrulls genetic form stabilized to where they had a normal form and then could shapeshift to another form. To me the Skrulls and the Wraiths were descended from Deviants with unstable forms much like the ones on earth.
I totally agree with this idea. Unfortunately, nobody has written a story supporting it yet.
Quote:The mention of it being a penal colony explicitly contradicts the story of it's founding in the old What If story. Granted it does go to explaining who created the domes which the original story did not.
The dome on Uranus was originally created by the Kree to house the weapons depot that they placed on the planet. After the Kree had come to inspect the damaged dome and then left in pursuit of Uranos and his ship, Astron and his followers returned and repaired the dome so that they could build their colony within it. As for the native Uranians being the wardens of the exiled Eternals, I think that was more a product of the Uranian mind-set: The Eternals had been exiled therefore they were criminals who had to stay exiled. When the Eternals tried to circumvent the restrictions imposed upon them by the Uranians' viewpoint (by having someone from Earth invite them to return), the Uranians regarded them as having violated the terms by which they were allowed to live on Uranus and summarily executed them.
Quote:I'm assuming if the Urianians were the jailers of Astron's people then the Uranians had to be in league with either Chronos, Uranos, Zuras or Mentor. If Astron's people were deemed criminals then the Urianians were jailing them to appease one of those factions.
I don't believe that it was ever stated that anyone besides the Uranians had appointed them to be the jailers of the Eternals. As I recall, the idea was that the Uranians discovered that the Eternals had been exiled by their kinsmen from Earth and decided, on their own, to treat them like criminals by allowing them to live if and only if they stayed exiled. Once their plan to escape was made evident, the Uranians took it upon themselves to execute the Eternals.
Quote:7. The moon where the Skrulls created a blue area of oxygen, the Cotati created a park, and the Kree created a city which the Inhumans parked their own city right next to for a time in the modern age. I'm not sure if Uatu built his citadel there or if just lives in the Kree city that the Kree built in their contest with the Cotati to join the Skrulls trading consortium. I don't think the Cotati garden is still there but I think the Elder of the universe the Gardener resurrected plants on the moon when he had the time gem...I can't remember if Mantlo even knew about the Cotati park on the moon but it makes some sense Gardner would be able to resurrect plant life there.
Quote:According to Avengers v.1 #133, the Cotati garden wasn't on our moon, but rather on some other planetoid where the Cotati are dropped off before the Skrulls head to our moon. But later the Kree can somehow run over and destroy it without shipsâ€¦I have no idea whether Engelhart was keeping track of his own script there, so let's assume it's all the same Earth-moon. Unless maybe the Cotati were left on Titanâ€¦..?
Quote:I recently read the Celestial Madonna TPB and was confused on this point for the same reasons.
Quote:Thematically I like it better if both groups were on the moon because it feeds into the Gardener recreating a garden there.
The idea that the Skrulls took both the Kree and the Cotati to Earth's Moon seems to have originated with the EARTH X miniseries and spread to various wikis. In the original Avengers story, each group was taken to their own moon and left there for one year. At the end of that period, the Skrulls came to each of the moons to inspect what both groups had accomplished. The Skrulls who came to Earth's Moon were very impressed by the Blue City that the Kree had built, so much so that all during the voyage home Morag and the other Kree were eagerly anticipating their bright future within the Skrull Empire. It was only once they had arrived back on Hala that they learned that the other Skrulls, the ones who had inspected the Cotati garden on the other moon, had been more impressed by it. Accordingly, Morag gathered his warriors and during the night they wiped out all the Cotati on HALA, then killed the Skrull delegation when they protested and seized the Skrull starship.
Exactly what happened to the Cotati garden on that other moon was not revealed by Engelhart. Presumably the Cotati who had nurtured it had been returned to Hala, just like the Kree contestants had been, but that was never explicitly established. Considering how traumatic the Cotati had found star travel, perhaps they had asked the Skrulls to leave them on that moon instead of returning them to Hala?
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