Previous Post Quote: I remember that, I just looked it up and they are considered more associate level what ever that means. That would bring it up to 147. I just thought, did Victoria Hand have honorary status? Captain America referred to her as "one of them." Squirrel Girl? She was in one of the meetings. Skaar and Red She Hulk. For whatever reason she was with the Avengers when they fought the Serpent and his followers. Seems like Hand did have some sort of status. I haven't read the appearances of Squirrel girl while she was the nanny for Luke and Jessica's baby, so I can't weigh in there. Quote: Maybe one day I'll redo a list with honorary, in training, actual members. It's really kind of strange how some heroes are forced to train or be probationary, while others are just handed membership when they have no experience. Kid Nova comes to mind. Smasher too, though at least she was older. What are your thoughts on the Avengers Resistance? I'm the only poster that I've noticed who thinks they are equivalent to the New Avengers during that era, who weren't official either. They called themselves Avengers and had former Avengers on the team to give that merit. Sure, some of them are pretty C-List, but that's not a factor in whether or not they served as Avengers. They did team up with the main team on one occasion too.

I counted them in the beginning, but I think they were calling themselves Avengers, but no one had the authority to call themselves Avengers. Hank being a founder has the status to form a team. The argument could be made Luke Cage's team were not actual Avengers, but I think Commander Rogers considered them time served.

I thought I read somewhere he met with them to see where they stood and felt as Avengers, and most of them were made reserves. I think that was applied to Justice, Tigra, Rage. I think Gauntlet might have been offered (off panel) but was not interested, he was an instructor, and he might have yelled Avengers Assemble, so there might be a cause there for argument. But Debrri resigned, I think Diamondback was offered a government job, Night Thrasher and Scarlet Spider and Slapstick were New Warriors, not sure about the girl Lizard (I forget her name) and Ultra Girl (her I would have liked to see stick around.)

The same could be said for Captain America's Secret Avengers during the Civil War. That Included Young Avengers, Nighthawk, Cable, Human Torch, "Daredevil" Storm, Silouette, Arachne, Asp, Battlestar, Black Crow, Black Mamba, Cloak, Coldblood, Dagger, Gladiatrix, Goliath (Bill Foster), Lectronn, Lightbright, Living Mummy, Network, Night Nurse, Prodigy, Shroud, Solo, Timeslip, Typeface.

Avengers featured: Cap, Black Panther, Falcon, Firebird, Hercules, Justice, Invisible Woman, Living Lightning, Spider Woman, Monica, Machine Man, Triathlon, Spiderman, Tigra, Spider Woman (Skrull), Stingray, Rage, Cage.

I think the team was given the name by the press. But I think Bishop said in one issue "I thought we were the Avengers.


I always wished the writers and or editors clarified it for the characters during their time on the book(s). Captain Marvel II referred to Marrina as an Avenger when she pleaded her case to Doctor Druid.

Mr. Bojo