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MysteryMan

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Reverend Meteor

Subj: Re: I've seen Civil War twice...i honestly did not like it. It was much ado about nothing.
Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 at 12:23:35 pm EDT (Viewed 2 times)
Reply Subj: Re: I've seen Civil War twice...i honestly did not like it. It was much ado about nothing.
Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 at 06:07:02 pm EDT (Viewed 2 times)



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        Captain America made no sense. He did not want the Avengers to be under the UN, when all the while they have been working with SHIELD. SHIELD is a covert agency under the US government. That is no different than being under the UN.

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        That's a flaw originating from the original comic version of the story. It never did make any sense that Cap would be the scofflaw. An American solider is trained to submit to authority. And Steve in particular believes in government and the rule of law.



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    I don't know...I've always wondered what would have happened if Steve got wind of the Manhattan Project. He got frozen before he had to deal with the ethical quagmire that came from the USA dropping nukes on Japan (or Germany as originally planned). He was out of play when America got their hands dirty.



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      Tony, as a right-wing capitalist, would be more likely to believe in small government, and maximizing personal freedoms. Much like his stance in Iron Man 2, when he refused to share his tech with the American government.

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        Cap might be suspicious of intelligence services, especially since Hydra infiltrated SHIELD, but the UN represents many legitimate governments. For him to say no to them is like saying no to a direct order from the President. The Cap I know wouldn't do that. Tony and Reed would.


      I wouldn't say "The Project" was any dirtier than many other things done by all countries. There is this tendancy to be apologetic for what our ancestors did...too much like survivors guilt for me to be apologetic about it.

      Was it brutal and should we seek to never use such methods again...definitely yes. But its not so clear cut as America had easy choices here.



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