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Subj: Re: Conflicted about Civil War II
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 at 01:33:39 pm EDT (Viewed 402 times)
Reply Subj: Conflicted about Civil War II
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 at 11:04:22 am EDT (Viewed 483 times)



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    Well, I picked up the first issue and really wanted to enjoy it. In spite of all the complaining online about Marvel's big events I have generally been entertained by them.



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    So far this event just isn't doing it for me. Part of it is that there was very little (if any) build up to it other than the FCBD and #0. The events I like the best are those that actually have build up. This one literally starts in the middle of the action so the tensions between CM and IM come out of nowhere.



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    There are nitpicky things I could harp on. The fact that the celebration party was at Stark Tower was really annoying since he no longer owns it. I can usually overlook things like that but this time it took me right out of the story.

There were multiple Stark Towers. He sold one but does still own the other.


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    I can't really understand Tony's position. What if the Ultimates had not confronted Thanos? How many more people would have died? Did Ulysses's vision give any indication of that? What if this is a case of an acceptable loss in order to accomplish an objective?

We're meant to not know Ulysses' vision. And that's part of Tony's complaint. Inhumans are not to be trusted. But apart from that, Tony is not complaining about incidents like this, but other uses of it. There's the possibility of a self-fulfilling prophecy (one that you actually create by "knowing" about it). And applying "justice" based on a prophecy is disgustingly immoral. It is quite possible that fewer people would have died had that team (not the Ultimates) not been there. And honestly, that was a horrible team Carol assembled for someone like Thanos. No way should Rhodey and Jenn have been a part of that.


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    It is not like they were given a future where there was potential for trouble. We're talking about Thanos. Could there be a situation when they wouldn't have to confront Thanos?

Again, Tony was not complaining about that. He even said so.




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