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Subj: Re: Harley Quinn
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 at 12:43:56 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Harley Quinn
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 at 07:19:56 am EDT
> I don't see your argument. It's been shown in the past that sidekicks (There's gotta be a better word for this) do serve a practical purpose. They can serve as decoys or distractions, they provide input from another perspective, they can do the dirty work or take the fall. They can keep a lookout or watch your back.
This is true, but why do you need a copycat of the original? In truth while sidekicks are useful they are not really necessary and often take away the limelight of the original powerful characters.
> In regard to your King Kong analogy, it's not quite the same, being a bit more unbalanced and unreasonable. An archaelogist cannot play on the same field as Kong and a T-Rex on any level. S/he'd just get squashed or eaten. If you look at, in this case, Robin and Harley Quinn, both are effective combatatants and tacticians (When written properly), and have faced their mentor's opposite and come out on top on more than one occasion.
I think it is a pretty good analogy as sidekicks can never and do never surpass their powerful mentor's shadow.
> As for it not working, well, one sees a lot of lawkeepers often work in pairs, and there's more than one account of criminals of varying fields having lackeys or accomplices that assisted them.
Sure, but it just seems ridiculous most of the time as the sidekicks usually are nowhere near as great or important as their
> In regard to the movie, this early on, I'd have trouble with Robin and Harley appearing, but later on? Provided they don't do what they normally do and kill the villain at the end, it'd be cool to see Harley appear, either as a cameo near the end or in a later film. Honestly, it wouldn't be a stretch. Stockholm syndrome isn't a comic book plot device.
No matter though, because Nolan considers it a ridiculous notion and would never do it. I happen to agree with him entirely, there is zero reason even in a cameo for their to be a sidekick in a movie.
Most sidekicks would be better off had they never been sidekicks in the first place and instead had just been created as original characters in their own series, living their own lives, then always just being shadows of their mentors created solely to relate more to the mentors.