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Mr_Vespa

In Reply To
Thatguy

Subj: Re: Ugh. No...just no
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 12:53:46 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: Ugh. No...just no
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 09:04:09 am EST

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> > > (especially when you consider the message behind Cass' recently reconned defection, but that's another thread entirely)
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> > What's the "message" behind Cass's defection?
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> I'm assuming the message he is referring to is that you cannot escape your upbringing. If you were born an assassin, you were destined to become an assassin again later in life. But, that has already been retconned by Geoff Johns. So, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

The original, intended message that 'you can't change who you are' remains the same, regardless of recons. And that's a pretty damn depressing message.
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> I also think that fans overstate Leslie's importance to the Bat-mythos. I never warmed to the character as she always seemed like she was the Adrian to Batman's Rocky, in that she was always nagging and b*tching and taking up screen time with long preachy monologues when the audience really just wants to get back to the action of the story. So, I don't miss her from the Mythos that much, but also think that they should have sent her character out in a different manner. Still, as I mention in another post int his thread, its still and easy fix at this point.

Writers are charged with giving readers what they need, not what they want ;\)

Leslie function was to give an alternative view point, to break or to challenge Batman's world view. To drown readers in Batman's world 24/7 becomes repetitive, at best.


> Writers are charged with giving readers what they need, not what they want ;\)

Writers are charged to give us entertaining stories. Those who forget that fact and adopt this attitude tend to soapbox and spew pretentious crap. See Judd Winnick as an example of the phenomenon.
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> Leslie function was to give an alternative view point, to break or to challenge Batman's world view. To drown readers in Batman's world 24/7 becomes repetitive, at best.

Right, which means she was redundant as we already have Robin, Nightwing, Alfred, Commissioner Gordan, and a host of other supporting characters that provided the same function, challenging Batman's world view. Any opposing viewpoint on an issue that She could have provided could easily be delegated to one of these other characters. Thus, she really had been reduced to just a nag towards the end. I don't agree with what was done to her character. But I hadn't found her interesting story wise for a while.


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