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Subj: Re: Is a sperm donor really a "relation" in any real sense though?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 at 03:30:00 am EST
Reply Subj: Re: Is a sperm donor really a "relation" in any real sense though?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 at 12:58:31 am EST

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> > > As far as I know, not by blood, and in the current continuity Bats and Talia were never married, so they aren't even ex-father-in-law and ex-son-in-law.
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> > > So how are they related?
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> Fathering a child doesn't mean you're related to the rest of the family. Damian is related to both of course, but as Damian appears to have been created by coercion, not romance or affection, I don't think there is a word for a relationship between a sperm donor and the father of the woman who got used the sperm.


Whats issues did you read? I saw plenty of romance, sure their were drugs involved too, but... hmm... its a slippery slope, Id like to think Bruce would have concented anyway, but thats a pretty dangerous thing to think, cause it gives guys who rape drunk girls too easy an argument (we cant really have it both ways) but anyways, Im pretty sure Damien was conceived the old fashioned way, and all the test tubes and stuffin the lab scenes were of Damian clones, grown to supply the original with fresh organs/blood etc if need be. I think Talia dug on carrying Bruce's child. She may be messed up, but in her own way she does love the big lug.

Still doesnt make Bruce and Ra's related though.

> Whats issues did you read?

The one where Batman says Talia drugged him and took the sperm that way.

>I saw plenty of romance, sure their were drugs involved too, but...

There HAS been romance in their past, it wasn't involved in Damian's creation.

>hmm... its a slippery slope, Id like to think Bruce would have concented anyway, but thats a pretty dangerous thing to think,

Absolutely. Not saying "no" doesn't equal consent.

>cause it gives guys who rape drunk girls too easy an argument (we cant really have it both ways) but anyways, Im pretty sure Damien was conceived the old fashioned way,

Bruce was drugged, whether test tubes were involved or actual rape, both equate to lack of informed consent.



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