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Omar Karindu

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Dark Marvel

Subj: Re: Am I the only one who liked paranoid slightly crazy Batman?
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 10:44:37 am EST
Reply Subj: Am I the only one who liked paranoid slightly crazy Batman?
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 at 09:07:20 am EST

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***I think that the DCU needed somebody who was willing to do whatever it took to be prepared for all eventualities. Not too many super hero friends, but allies, who were still uneasy with him. When Batman is in the room everybody should shut up because he is that dangerous. The Bat-family almost could have been it's own league and with their brains, detective work and just plain old instinct could take out anyone with just a little bit of prep...I havent read Batman in a while but a friend told me he is a lot friendlier now...I don't like that.

> ***I think that the DCU needed somebody who was willing to do whatever it took to be prepared for all eventualities. Not too many super hero friends, but allies, who were still uneasy with him. When Batman is in the room everybody should shut up because he is that dangerous. The Bat-family almost could have been it's own league and with their brains, detective work and just plain old instinct could take out anyone with just a little bit of prep...I havent read Batman in a while but a friend told me he is a lot friendlier now...I don't like that.

There were always three problems with this, though: first, the writers pushed it to the point that there wasn't evena Bat-family, and tended to have paranoid Batman become so paranoid that he stopped seeming....well...smart. (Really, Bruce, when every nutjob in Arkham and Blackgate are loose, it might just be okay to call in outside help so that you don't get your back broken by the next psycho who catches you when you're all tuckered out. Doing it all yourself is not good strategy, and not intelligent.)

The second problem with it is that sales purpoises meant that Batman had to show up everywhere and be a charter JLAer. And if he's also being a paranoid, slightly crazy jerkass, then it becomes increasingly unlikely he'd be able to work with the JLA regularly or that anyone else would put up with him. Plus the reader ends up seeing him being a jerk, but not seeing him accomplishing loads and loads of things, so he loses that "abnything it takes" edge.

The third proble, of course, is that he never really was an "anything it takes" type poutside of the extreme and alternate future circumstances of DKR. Her doesn't kill, for instance, and even at his looniest he always had a strange tendency to prefer using his physical skills over prep and gadgets, which then tended to get him more lumps than a genuinely prepared, "anything it takes" sort reasonably would. Again, the end resulkt was less to make him seem like a dark, uber-prepared type in his own books than to make him seem like a nutjob who often hampered himself unnecessarily. In short, it made him look less efficient, not moreso.

Besides, friendliness often allows you to manipulate other people all the more easily, and if getting the job done is what you're really after....

- Omar Karindu

"A Renoir. I have three, myself. I had four, but ordered one burned...It displeased me." -- Doctor Doom

"It's not, 'Oh, they killed Sue Dibney and I always loved that character,' it's 'Oh, they broke a story engine that could have told a thousand stories in order to publish a single 'important' one.'" -- John Seavey


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