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Subj: Re: The joker is here!
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 at 05:54:53 pm EST (Viewed 1 times)
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> > > http://www.empireonline.com/heiscoming/ \:\-\)
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> > Yuck. Is that what people really want the Joke to look like? He looks like a serial killer.
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> > Which I guess is what the modern Joker is supposed to be. Hannibal Lechter.
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> > I think this new movie may end up unwatchable for me, unfortunately.
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> I disagree I think he looks fantastic. The clothes are perfect and he looks dignified and insane at the same time.
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> I heart Chris Nolan

I am open minded to this design of the Joker. He looks really scary. He does look like an insane monster like Hannibal Lecter and this really is the only way Nolan could have gone because he is trying to create realistic characters that you can relate to.

Batman's Joker was just a cliched crazy mobster villain and a stereotypical portrayal of a madman by Jack Nicholson. No one related to him, but by Nolan humanizing the characters in Batman Begins and making them realistic everybody can relate them.

Hannibal Lecter is considered the greatest villain of all time in movies. Heath Ledger's Joker will give Hannibal Lecter some competition.

Heath Ledger according to various intervies worked hard on his portrayal of the Joker trying to get into the head of what makes such a complex madman tick. He literally became the Joker, he read the comics, tried to understand the Joker's psychology, worked on his joice and mannerisms to get the portrayal just right, and then went on to do this for weeks.

The only thing I do not like about the new Joker is that the white color might now just be makeup, but really thinking about the Joker falling into a vat of chemicals and this causing his skin to be perfectly permanently bleached white forever is hard to believe.

> I am open minded to this design of the Joker. He looks really scary. He does look like an insane monster like Hannibal Lecter and this really is the only way Nolan could have gone because he is trying to create realistic characters that you can relate to.

But can that work with a character like the Joker?

> Batman's Joker was just a cliched crazy mobster villain and a stereotypical portrayal of a madman by Jack Nicholson. No one related to him, but by Nolan humanizing the characters in Batman Begins and making them realistic everybody can relate them.
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> Hannibal Lecter is considered the greatest villain of all time in movies.

Out of curiosity, by whom? I found him to be overblown, lacking in anything like genuine menace and played more like a panto villain by Anthony Hopkins.

> Heath Ledger according to various intervies worked hard on his portrayal of the Joker trying to get into the head of what makes such a complex madman tick. He literally became the Joker, he read the comics, tried to understand the Joker's psychology, worked on his joice and mannerisms to get the portrayal just right, and then went on to do this for weeks.

As the Joker in this movie seems to have not that much in common with the comics, one wonders why.

> The only thing I do not like about the new Joker is that the white color might now just be makeup, but really thinking about the Joker falling into a vat of chemicals and this causing his skin to be perfectly permanently bleached white forever is hard to believe.

And the rest of the Batman mythos isn't?


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