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Subj: Re: Bruce and Tim's mixed-up age [SPOILERS]
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 04:56:59 am EDT
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So Jezebel Jet comments that Bruce is "in his thirties now," seeming to indicate that Bruce is in his early 30s. I assume that Bruce was de-aged by a "Superboy-Prime Punch" as this doesn't gel with what we already know:

1. Bruce is stated as being 25 in Batman: Year One.

2. Zero Hour established that ten years had gone by since Bruce's debut as Batman, Bruce would thus be 35 at the time of Zero Hour.

3. Zatanna has previously shown to be a lover of John Constantine when both were in college. Constantine is now in his late forties, having aged in real-time for the most part. Zatanna would thus be in her late forties as well.

4. Bruce and Zatanna are said to be "childhood friends," meaning they're pretty much the same age unless an 18-year old Zatanna enjoyed playing with five-year old kids.

Then there's Tim Drake:

1. Tim was in the audience when Dick's parents died, but their has traditionally shown to be a sizeable age gap between the two. TIm was probably only five when Dick's parents died.

2. Tim was only able to drive the Redbird in its civilian form because he was granted a special underage Driver's License so he could drive his crippled father around. But no one is going to give a 12-year old a driver's license under any circumstances, so Tim was probably 14-15 at the start of his solo series.

3. Tim had at least three summer vacations in his solo series, he would have been 18-19 during One Year Later, yet he and Steph are shown as probably being juniors.

4. The current "Robin" artist and the current "Teen Titans" artist draw Tim, Steph and friends as pumped-up 18-19 year olds, yet in R.I.P., Robin Spoiler Special and Gotham Underground they're drawn as 15-16 year olds.

> Edit: Please delete the below thread, mods.
>
> So Jezebel Jet comments that Bruce is "in his thirties now," seeming to indicate that Bruce is in his early 30s. I assume that Bruce was de-aged by a "Superboy-Prime Punch" as this doesn't gel with what we already know:
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> 1. Bruce is stated as being 25 in Batman: Year One.
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> 2. Zero Hour established that ten years had gone by since Bruce's debut as Batman, Bruce would thus be 35 at the time of Zero Hour.

We've had at least one major reality punch since then, in Infinite Crisis.

> 3. Zatanna has previously shown to be a lover of John Constantine when both were in college. Constantine is now in his late forties, having aged in real-time for the most part. Zatanna would thus be in her late forties as well.

Hellblazer knew the risks working realtime, none of the guest characters are bound by that limitation.

> 4. Bruce and Zatanna are said to be "childhood friends," meaning they're pretty much the same age unless an 18-year old Zatanna enjoyed playing with five-year old kids.

Not since the court order.

> Then there's Tim Drake:
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> 1. Tim was in the audience when Dick's parents died, but their has traditionally shown to be a sizeable age gap between the two. TIm was probably only five when Dick's parents died.

Nope, he was a toddler so two, or three tops. That night is his earliest memory.

> 2. Tim was only able to drive the Redbird in its civilian form because he was granted a special underage Driver's License so he could drive his crippled father around. But no one is going to give a 12-year old a driver's license under any circumstances, so Tim was probably 14-15 at the start of his solo series.

13 or 14

> 3. Tim had at least three summer vacations in his solo series, he would have been 18-19 during One Year Later, yet he and Steph are shown as probably being juniors.

And Dick Grayson celebrated something like 40 Christmas's between the age of 10 and 18 or so. Sometimes two in the same year if Teen Titans had him in a different Christmas event than the Bat titles. Using annual milestone markers like that means nothing in comic terms.

> 4. The current "Robin" artist and the current "Teen Titans" artist draw Tim, Steph and friends as pumped-up 18-19 year olds, yet in R.I.P., Robin Spoiler Special and Gotham Underground they're drawn as 15-16 year olds.

That's as much down to art style as anything, though I'd argue that Robin in Titans and his own title looks 18. The ideal age for a Robin like Tim is, as PAD suggested in YJ, 15 going on 16.

And if you think Tim has it bad, they recently confirmed Dick Garyson as being 26 (Though they also suggested in the same panel he had started his heroic career at the age of 16, which is improbably old) so that would make Bruce at least 36, which I actually don't have a problem with.

Age in comics, particularly for heroes with sidekicks, and extra especially with sidekicks and former sidekicks who are adults in their own right.

I'd ignore Jezebel's comment the same way I ignore Grant having Emma Frost describe herself as being under 30 (Though there was an inference there it was minor self delusion if nothing else)


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