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CensusTaker

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darth-sinister

Subj: Re: Post "R.I.P." wishlist? [SPOILERS]
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 04:24:41 am EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Post "R.I.P." wishlist? [SPOILERS]
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 01:40:44 am EDT

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> > > > So what do you want the Batman status quo to be like after R.I.P.? Myself:
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> > > Batman dies in horrific agony.
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> > > Then Batman awakens and discovers the whole Morrison run was just a toxic induced comma resulting from exposure to Scarecrow's fear gas.
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> > > Steve Englehart, Matt Wagner, and Neal Adams begin a new run on Batman ignoring completely Morrison's horror and giving everyone the real Batman culminating in Batman retiring after bringing an end to crime in Gotham City for decades to come.
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> > The only way to end crime forever is to nuke the whole city. Because you cannot ever eradicate crime. You have to eradicate mankind to get rid of crime. That's why the tagline in the Superman mythos is "The Never Ending Battle...", because it will never end. And as we've seen in "Batman Beyond", "DC 1 Million" and "Kingdom Come", crime will never go away. The world will always need Batman.
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> Those you cite are all alternate continuities.

To are alternate Earths, one is a potential future. True. But the point is still valid, he could not end crime in Gotham.


> Besides which who says crime cannot be eradicated?
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> In real life several nations have low to no crime rates.

Yes, but it still exists in the US. And in many of those nations, the penalties are strict. In some nations, you cut off a person's limbs for stealing.

> Of course crime can be eradicated, maybe not forever, but at the very least for five years.

Which would then result in Batman coming out of retirement as soon as crime returns, thus rendering his retirement pointless. To truly stop crime, wipe out humanity and Bruce doesn't have the stones to do it.

> > > > > So what do you want the Batman status quo to be like after R.I.P.? Myself:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Batman dies in horrific agony.
> > > >
> > > > Then Batman awakens and discovers the whole Morrison run was just a toxic induced comma resulting from exposure to Scarecrow's fear gas.
> > > >
> > > > Steve Englehart, Matt Wagner, and Neal Adams begin a new run on Batman ignoring completely Morrison's horror and giving everyone the real Batman culminating in Batman retiring after bringing an end to crime in Gotham City for decades to come.
> > >
> > >
> > > The only way to end crime forever is to nuke the whole city. Because you cannot ever eradicate crime. You have to eradicate mankind to get rid of crime. That's why the tagline in the Superman mythos is "The Never Ending Battle...", because it will never end. And as we've seen in "Batman Beyond", "DC 1 Million" and "Kingdom Come", crime will never go away. The world will always need Batman.
> >
> > Those you cite are all alternate continuities.
>
> To are alternate Earths, one is a potential future. True. But the point is still valid, he could not end crime in Gotham.
>
>
> > Besides which who says crime cannot be eradicated?
> >
> > In real life several nations have low to no crime rates.
>
> Yes, but it still exists in the US. And in many of those nations, the penalties are strict. In some nations, you cut off a person's limbs for stealing.

Of course those countries actually have higher and not lower crime rates than countries with more liberal legal systems.
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> > Of course crime can be eradicated, maybe not forever, but at the very least for five years.
>
> Which would then result in Batman coming out of retirement as soon as crime returns, thus rendering his retirement pointless. To truly stop crime, wipe out humanity and Bruce doesn't have the stones to do it.