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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 at 08:28:09 am EDT
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> > > > Steph, who was always well intentioned, but never that skilled? Suddenly the criminal life looks more profitable in Gotham again
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> > > It's basically being retconned as we speak that she's at least as skilled as Robin, as seen in Wednesday's special.
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> > I hope not. She can hold her own in a street fight fine, but she lacks Tim's smarts (especially in deduction) and experience.
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> Well expereince obvious comes with time;

Provided you live that long, sure.

>Tim wasnt as experience as Steff is now when he started,

Yes, and he trained intensively before Bruce let him function as Robin

>and as for smarts, well she is ClueMasters daughter; he wasnt a complete idoit and im sure neither is steff.

Sorry but "not a complete idiot" is hardly good enough to be Robin. \:\) (And there'd be some debate on how smart Cluemaster ever was)

> > > > > Steph, who was always well intentioned, but never that skilled? Suddenly the criminal life looks more profitable in Gotham again
> > > >
> > > > It's basically being retconned as we speak that she's at least as skilled as Robin, as seen in Wednesday's special.
> > >
> > > I hope not. She can hold her own in a street fight fine, but she lacks Tim's smarts (especially in deduction) and experience.
> >
> > Well expereince obvious comes with time;
>
> Provided you live that long, sure.
>
> >Tim wasnt as experience as Steff is now when he started,
>
> Yes, and he trained intensively before Bruce let him function as Robin

nd presuambly Steph would have to prove herself (properly this time- last time was rushed because Tim had quit) if she was ever to become Robin again.
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> >and as for smarts, well she is ClueMasters daughter; he wasnt a complete idoit and im sure neither is steff.
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> Sorry but "not a complete idiot" is hardly good enough to be Robin. \:\) (And there'd be some debate on how smart Cluemaster ever was)

The only thing we know for sure about Cluemaster is that he wasnt as clever as the Riddler. But thats like saying you dont punch as hard as George Forman, a long way from saying you cant punch! He was fairly sucessful for a time. Anyways, even if Steph doesnt have as much raw brains potential as Tim, well again, thats like saying someone doesnt have the natural gymnastic ability of Dick Grayson or the willingness to hit Batman in the guts with a tire-iron- or some other such act of fearless agression- of Jason Todd. She can learn.

Tht said, I dont want her to be Robin, or Tim or Dick or Jason to be Batman. (And no, I dotn want Jason dead either. Always liked him, glad he's back. Some of the stories he's been in since have sucked, but you can say tht about just about ll DC characters over the last five years).

RIP stnds for, Rest In Peace, yeah? Batman, RIP? Who said anything about someone dieing? Certainly not Morrison. Im picking he actually means it literally; Batman/Bruce, at the end of this story, will actually get a decent nights sleep for the first time since he was eight years old. And then he'll get up the next day and keep fighting the good fight; not because he has to but because he chooses too. And thats real.


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