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Subj: Re: should killer villians be recurring?
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 at 05:48:29 pm EST (Viewed 178 times)
Reply Subj: Re: should killer villians be recurring?
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 at 08:51:23 pm EST

> That is one interpretation of the Joker. I don't have a problem with this Joker, just that a psychotic killer like this interpretation of the Joker should not be allowed to live or at least should be locked up deep underground in a padded cell in a hush-hush facility so that he could not potentially get out again and kill some more.

He'd get out. Arkham was given a major upgrade and the Joker still got out. As he has said, he can come and go whenever. When he stays, he chooses to.

> However, there have been other interpretations of the Joker, and not all of them depict him as a psychotic killer. As an example, the Joker in the Batman: The Animated Series does not kill. In fact, I would say that ALL the villains in the BTAS are a good example that a villain does not have to be a killer to be interesting.

The Joker was a killer in that show, but only in the latter episodes and both animated films featuring him. The reason we didn't see him kill in any animated series has to do with parents television groups and the FCC, which have strict rules regarding animation violence and death. If the show had been on HBO like "Spawn", you would've seen a bunch of bodies.

> > > I am not saying that killers should not be used in comics, just that they should not be recurring characters because I think it would be a miscarriage of justice to the victims in letting them live to potentially continue their work.
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> > That's what makes the ones like the Joker both loved and hated. He mocks the judicial system and the people who want him to be punished. He is chaos and anarky. The punchline of life. Besides, no matter what happens, whether he lives or dies, it still won't change that the lives are lost.
> It would bring justice to his victims and to the families of those victims and it would prevent any further killings.

It still doesn't change that there are still people who are dead. Even then, there are those who feel that justice will never truly be served because their loved ones are dead.

> If a villain like the Joker is to be a recurring character, he or she should not be depicted as a psychotic killer because it would be nonsensical to let him or her live.

Not really. As mentioned, he serves as not only a great foil for Batman, but a reminder of what he has lost to him. And what goes through his mind when he has to deal with him. The guilt of the lives lost to the Joker weigh heavily on his shoulders.

Then there's also the fact that mass murderers like the Joker have a strong fanbase. Look no further than Michael Myers, Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger, Chucky and Pinhead. Fictional mass murderers and pyschos, who continually return to add to their body count because they are unstoppable killing machines. Look to the real world. Jack the Ripper was never found. They never really found the Zodiac Killer. There were suspects to be certain, but nothing concrete.

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