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Grey Gargoyle

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
In Reply To
RorschachByNight

Subj: Re: The best answer
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 at 04:16:23 pm EST (Viewed 339 times)
Reply Subj: Re: The best answer
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 at 04:04:36 pm EST (Viewed 306 times)


> The idea of Dr. Hurt being the Devil himself works not just because Morrison has stated Hurt's identity would be known to the entire world, not just comic readers, but also due to his linking on Batman as a Christ figure in Arkham Asylum nearly twenty years ago. More of him tying every story to continuity, which has worked fairly well.

Indeed, that's an interesting analysis of Arkham Asylum (by the way, you could also say that Batman looked like a devil in the first part of Arkham Asylum as well : the salt, et cetera ...)
>
> > > I read it, but I can't figure it out. Sheesh! Can anyone help!?
> > > Thanks!
> >
> > There is no definitive answer and it was done on purpose by Grant Morrison.
> >
> > When I tried to guess the answer, I thought that all clues did lead to Hugo Strange but I was totally wrong.
> >
> > Nevertheless, now, what is the best answer left in my opinion ?
> >
> > Congratulations to all the readers that correctly guessed that Doctor Hurt is an avatar of the Devil.
> >
> > That's the best answer.
> > If you read anew all the Batman stories by Grant Morrison, everything leads to it.
> >
> > Simon Hurt himself provides the answer :
> > "If not Dad, then have you dared to consider the only alternative?"
> >
> > Bruce Wayne answered Mangrove Pierce.
> > Then, Simon Hurt said :
> > "No, I skinned Mangrove Pierce alive and wore him to Mayhew's party."
> > So, at the beginning of the Club of Heroes storyline, we actually see Simon Hurt with the face of Mangrove Pierce.
> >
> > So, have you dared to consider the only alternative ?
> > The Devil himself is the best answer.
> >
> > Clues :
> >
> > - "dare"/devil
> >
> > - Simon Hurt : "I am the hole in things, Bruce, the enemy, the piece that can never fit, there since the beginning"
> >
> > - Batman : "In my attempts to see clearly in the deepest dark, in my efforts to go to the still eye of the storm of madness, did I open up myself to some pure source of evil? Did I finally read the limits of reason? And find the Devil waiting? And was that fear in his eyes?"
> >
> > - the Joker : "devil is double is deuce, my dear dr. and joker trumps deuce"
> >
> > - the Joker : "pleased to meet you" (Sympathy for the Devil by the Rolling Stones)
> >
> > - The monk works for a "dark master" (and there are pictures of demons on the wall in the background)
> >
> > - We see again the "third ghost of Batman" who believes that Simon Hurt is the Devil himself
> >
> > - The Black Glove movie : "The story is the Devil himself put a curse on the whole thing"
> >
> > - et cetera
> >
> > (or you can believe what Joker said about apophenia ... )
> >
> > Thus, here is what I missed and what was really obvious :
> >
> > Here is the "shocking revelation" that Grant Morrison was talking about : the Devil created Batman.
> >
> > Thus, Thomas Wayne may be the father of Bruce Wayne, but the Devil is "the father of Batman".
> >
> > If you read anew Batman RIP from the beginning and all the other Batman stories by Grant Morrison, everything fits.



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