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Subj: Re: In other words, all multi-writer continuities are "claytinuities."
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 05:02:53 pm EST (Viewed 315 times)
Reply Subj: In other words, all multi-writer continuities are "claytinuities."
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 03:56:17 pm EST (Viewed 313 times)
I wasn't trying to ram the truth down any person's mouth. You are the one that brought it up.
Hey one comic book fan was able to come up with the term retroactive continuity so I don't see why I shouldn't have a right to come up with a new term for what everyone knows both DC and Marvel have.
DC and Marvel should be honest about having a clay continuity. They shouldn't try to cover up rewrites, retcons and reboots. Most readers agree with this and feel every time DC as well as Marvel do a rewrite, retcon or reboot they are scamming the readers because they try to hide it. I think DC and Marvel admitting they have a clay continuity would get rid of many headaches the readers have because then they would know what to expect from the start and would allow more freedom for the publishers to do as they please.
However, most readers because of the current situation are for what I support.
This is one comic written by one writer with a true vision of a character with one long story with a clear beginning, middle and end.
Whether this be Ed Brubaker's Captain America or Geoff John's Green Lantern the comic book readers have spoken to show that they want a consistent one writer one story current comic. They don't want to read several decades of comics by different writers each with their own version of a character. They want something that is easy to get into, practical and current with a time limit.
I am actually not completely against multiple writers working on one comic but you would still need to have one head writer guiding them. Like I said previously the problem with multiple writers is that most of them each have a different version of the character in mind. Batman's true love for example varies depending on the writer from any one of the following, Julie Madison, Talia Al Ghul, Silver St. Cloud, Catwoman, or simply put he might not even have a true love. This in many ways ruins Batman as his true love loses all impact when he gets a new flavor every so often, he just can't pick one and he comes off losing his honor. It also tends to divide the readers into various camps against one another.
Comic book readers have had problems with reboots but that is because DC for the most part hasn't done reboots right.
When John Byrne left Superman his version of Superman should have ended with a new comic coming out with a new version of Superman under a different writer, but what we got instead was a continuation of the comic even though Byrne had already left. This is the part that gets comic book readers furious. How can they know their version of a superhero has come to an end when DC is not willing to acknowledge it? How can they know Geoff Johns is doing a new version of Superman with a new story when he starts writing from Action Comics #837?
So it isn't so much reboots that the comic book readers are against but rather how DC mistreats writers and readers by not being completely honest about their clay continuity or not following through with a transparent reboot. DC misleeds both writers and readers into thinking their comic book is it only then later to pull a rewrite, retcon and reboot without telling anyone about it. DC needs to get their priorities straight, if they want a clay continuity then just tell everyone about it from the start there is no need for the conspiracy or if they want to regularly update a character with reboots then just be up front about it so the readers know their version of a character has a time limit.
People prefer honesty over lies. The comics of DC and Marvel do have several contradictions, you mentioned several of them, but it is more the lying about these inconsistencies that gets people upset to the point they give up not just on one comic but on the entire catalogue of the publisher.
When it comes to DC and Marvel comics both started out having a continuity of some sort but ended up with a clay continuity. DC from the start focused mainly on a continuity, then went into a clay continuity and then tried to fix the claycon with a reboot which led only to repeating the same cycle all over again. Marvel started out with a continuity and had one for several decades but then they started making several alterations which led into a claycon. The result of this has been comics going from being their main source of revenue, to comics being their least source of revenue with several of their readers leaving.
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