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Subj: Before ANYONE Tries To Straighten Out ANY Continuity...
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 07:03:35 am EST (Viewed 289 times)
Reply Subj: Re: In other words, all multi-writer continuities are "claytinuities."
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 01:57:04 am EST (Viewed 288 times)

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    What are these examples you speak of that supports your statement. All I've seen is stuff that shows that from "Dr. No" to "Die Another Day" were all in continuity, except for "Never Say Never Again" which was confirmed as being out of continuity.


"Never Say Never Again" is actually now part of the old continuity. Well first the basic stuff like each Bond actor looks different and is a different age. Also each Bond film takes place in the current time that it is filmed in so by time of Goldeneye Bond would be a senior citizen. Following of course the different origins of Bond, such as Timothy Dalton's Bond from the 80s being a 007 that has only been at it a few years, which is also a similar case for Pierce Brosnan's Bond which only became 007 back in 1986.

Not to mention the various references in the Pierce Brosnan James Bond film series to him being a new agent that began his job in the 80s, including the retiring of several characters to be replaced by new characters. Such as M, Q and Ms. Moneypenny retiring their jobs for new characters to take their code names.


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    They did that not because of money but to get away from the silly aspects that the films were known for.


Well they got rid of most of the silly aspects with Brosnan's Bond, however the main reason was they needed to get back to the beginning source material with a fresh modern take on Bond that does the novels justice.


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    It can be done, but only if the Newstand market were to come back. Sales are down because of it's absence, not continuity or poor quality.


I see comics in book stores like Barnes and Noble and Borders. Generally single issues don't sell there, although at times trade paperbacks and hardcovers do. The newsstands having comics I don't think would help matters much. DC and Marvel need to get with the times. They have done some progress with this with printing more trade paperbacks and hardcovers, but they still have more to do. Lack of continuity and poor quality are big complaints amongst readers. It is why both DC and Marvel have started to come out with big hardcover omnibus volumes that contain several issues connected to one another along with having some large grand pages as well as vibrant fine colors. This is also why both DC and Marvel have started to support more having one writer write one comic for longer periods.



DC and Marvel need to get their books out in front of the general, non-comics buying public; the ones who might see the new Superman or Batman movie and say, "Hey, I'd like to read some more adventures of theirs! Where do they SELL comics now?" and heads over to Barnes & Noble, only to be disappointed to only find $20-$30 books.

When the general public voices their displeasure at continuity being a mess, the publishers will straighten it all out. I think the public might be a LITTLE more leery of the violence in comics before they worry about how many "P's" are in Superman. \:\)



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