Batman >> View Post
Post By

In Reply To

Subj: Re: Immortal Batgod!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 at 11:13:51 am EST (Viewed 4 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Immortal Batgod!
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 at 06:26:50 pm EST (Viewed 13 times)

Previous Post

    My word!

    What the hell is this?

    Batman kills Darkseid and Darkseid's punishment is to make Batman an immortal god?

    I thought Batman was a human detective, not an immortal god.

    So Batman gets to live throughout all of history becoming a major historical figure? Shouldn't there had been historical Batman influences then? All of history should be completely different now.

    Check this out.


      Grant Morrison: "Batman needs to be eternally young, renewed like some pagan Fertility King to suit the changing tastes of his audience in each fresh generation. Batman can never grow old or die — and stories, no matter how good, which depict these events cannot be considered "canon." Batman was born in 1939 and would now be a sprightly 70-year-old if he aged like the rest of us. The "real" Batman, however, enjoys godlike immortality and must always be 30-ish moneyed orphan, Bruce Wayne, who dresses as a bat to fight crime. The trick is to tell stories which expand the limits of how far you can go and still maintain the integrity of the basic idea."

    So Batman really is an immortal god now?

    Well at least Morrison agrees that DC has no canon.

No, that's not what he said at all. He's saying that the characters have to remain eternally young, which is what happened with almost all comic book characters and even newstrip characters. Look at the Peanuts characters. They stopped aging by 1966 and were enternally young through the last strips by Charles Schultz.

Batman and Superman both have to remain eternally 34, just as Charlie Brown has to remain 9 years old. And the word canon has quotes around it. He's saying that Batman could not make his public debut in 1939, no more than he could in 1986. But he's always been active for over a decade. A story from 1940 can have relevance in 2009, only it cannot be placed in 1940, but rather 1999.

The Omega Sanction makes a person live multiple lives, throughout history. With each one progressively worse than the last one. As he said, it is the death that is life. Bruce isn't immortal. He lives a whole life which is difficult and challenging, only to die and then be reborn again and to go through it all again, only it's worse than the last time. Darkseid did it to Shilo Norman, who only escaped because of the Motherboxxx. Bruce doesn't even have that.

Does THAT really need to come out as an actual plot device tho? Readers know, on a subscouncious level, that characters dont really age as we do, unless the writer makes it so. It all sounds like trying to explain why the Sun always rises up.

Not to mention it all sounds a bit Phantom-ish, wich only kills it further. Batman is no Phantom.

Posted with Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 4.0; on Windows Vista
Alvaro's Comicboards powered by On Topic™ © 2003-2022 Powermad Software
All the content of these boards Copyright © 1996-2022 by Comicboards/TVShowboards. Software Copyright © 2003-2022 Powermad Software