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Subj: I've got one more possible precedent to throw into the pot . . . [SPOILERS]
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 at 11:25:35 pm EST (Viewed 1 times)
Reply Subj: Re: In a related note...how many times has this happened? [SPOILERS]
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 at 01:34:36 am EST
This material is being quoted from my
X-Men Fatality Timeline (4th Draft)
(In it, I try to list every time when any X-Men have died, and every time they have come back. Cap was at ground zero on at least one such occasion that hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.)
1984. Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #11. Written by Jim Shooter.
Doctor Doom, possessed of the power of the Beyonder, blasts at the assembled heroes on the war world of the Secret Wars. From comments made in #12, we gather that this should have involved killing all members of the X-Men who participated in that miniseries. In alphabetical order: Colossus, Cyclops, Lockheed, Nightcrawler, Professor X, Rogue, Storm, Wolverine.
[Note added to this post: Also Captain America and several other Avengers, as well as Spider-Man, Hulk, and the three male members of the Fantastic Four, if memory serves.]
1985. Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #12. Written by Jim Shooter.
They’re back! Colossus, Cyclops, Lockheed, Nightcrawler, Professor X, Rogue, Storm, Wolverine! Good as new!
[Note: Also all of the other heroes I mentioned as dying in the previous issue -- including Cap, of course!]
Thank Doctor Doom’s mood swings, the Beyonder’s manipulations, an alien healer girl named Zsaji who died, and the wonders of superduper futuristic technology.
Incidentally, I also mention in my Timeline several cases of what I call "Implicit Death." For example, if the entire Marvel Universe gets erased from existence for a split-second, that implicitly means that in that moment, every Marvel character we ever heard of before is "dead" if he wasn't already. Then, when the entire Marvel Universe gets restored to its previous condition (as always happens in such stories), all those characters have implicitly "been raised from the dead" -- even if, after all the fuss is over, none of them (or almost none?) know or care that anything special happened!
But if you want the full list of times when that sort of nonsense has happened, you'll have to follow the link and read my Timeline for yourself -- it would take too long and cut-and-paste the separate listings for each such story!
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