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Ed Love

In Reply To
David Medinnus

Subj: Re: The New Cap - my thoughts, such as they are...
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 06:10:01 am EDT
Reply Subj: Re: The New Cap - my thoughts, such as they are...
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 01:48:53 am EDT

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> You say "Bushie right-wing military" and call that 'thug', like it's a 'bad' thing. \:\-D I think it's better than having him a "Left-Wing Military Thug.' In any event, Captain America is many things and he has played many roles in comic history. I trust Bru.

The Communists are the Left-Wing military thugs. The Fascists are the Right-Wing military thugs. *grins*

But the reaction against Cap with a gun is mostly the fear of his turning more "Punisher" than "Old School CA", and my post was to the point of that being an unfounded fear with no supportive evidence; that the mere presence of a gun wasn't enough.

Brubaker and Stan Lee both have portrayed CA carrying high-explosives, which are a lot less discriminatory in their destruction, after all...

> > You say "Bushie right-wing military" and call that 'thug', like it's a 'bad' thing. \:\-D I think it's better than having him a "Left-Wing Military Thug.' In any event, Captain America is many things and he has played many roles in comic history. I trust Bru.
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> The Communists are the Left-Wing military thugs. The Fascists are the Right-Wing military thugs. *grins*
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> But the reaction against Cap with a gun is mostly the fear of his turning more "Punisher" than "Old School CA", and my post was to the point of that being an unfounded fear with no supportive evidence; that the mere presence of a gun wasn't enough.
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> Brubaker and Stan Lee both have portrayed CA carrying high-explosives, which are a lot less discriminatory in their destruction, after all...

I cannot recall Lee ever having Cap actually carrying explosives as part of his standard costume and using them on people. However, based on Brubaker's run so far, it doesn't seem to me as being an "unfounded fear with no supportive evidence" as we only have to look at the run so far. He turned a teen sidekick into an assassin willing to slit a soldier's throat from behind. We now have promo art where Captain America who until recently only carried a shield as having a knife and a gun, a gun which figures prominently in all the art. It's a very symbolic change in the nature of the character from what he has always been before. Captain America is not just a cop or soldier. He's also a superhero. What weapons and such a superhero carries has more significance into the kind of character he is. Just as me packing a gun as a civilian would be far more significant into the insight of what type of person I am than if I was wearing a policeman's uniform (or if you see a policeman with a machine gun and hand granades as opposed to seeing a soldier with those weapons).