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Ed Love

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DragynWulf

Subj: Re: It is because he isn't a master at every form of combat...
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 09:42:21 am CDT (Viewed 1 times)
Reply Subj: It is because he isn't a master at every form of combat...
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 at 09:20:40 am CDT (Viewed 1 times)

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> why do the new marvel hanfbooks state that Cap is a 6 instead of a 7. For the longest time he has been a 7. Taskmaster is a 7, red skull just got a 6, and Cap is shown at being a 6. Why the change?

It isn't a change. It is only defining it more is all. Captain America is not a master in all forms of combat, he is a master in several forms, but not all forms. Taskmaster, due to his Photographic Reflexes, is a master in all forms of combat. If there was a new one that suddenly emerged, he could master it within seconds/minutes, while Captain America would have to train hard at it, taking months/years to master. Remember, what took Captain America years to master (throwing his sheild for example), Taskmaster mastered just by watching him once.

Here is how they are explained:
OHotMU Power Grids

Proficiency in hand-to-hand combat
1 = Poor
2 = Normal
3 = Some training
4 = Experienced fighter
5 = Master of a single form of combat
6 = Master of several forms of combat
7 = Master of all forms of combat

While you didn't mention him, I am only mentioning him to help you get a better idea of things. Captain America from the Revolutionary War era has a fighting skill of 4, because he doesn't have anywhere near the training that his ancestor does.

Hope this helps you better understand how it is done.

Have a Nice Day!
-DragynWulf





> > why do the new marvel hanfbooks state that Cap is a 6 instead of a 7. For the longest time he has been a 7. Taskmaster is a 7, red skull just got a 6, and Cap is shown at being a 6. Why the change?
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> It isn't a change. It is only defining it more is all. Captain America is not a master in all forms of combat, he is a master in several forms, but not all forms. Taskmaster, due to his Photographic Reflexes, is a master in all forms of combat. If there was a new one that suddenly emerged, he could master it within seconds/minutes, while Captain America would have to train hard at it, taking months/years to master. Remember, what took Captain America years to master (throwing his sheild for example), Taskmaster mastered just by watching him once.
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I've always argued that Cap shouldn't be considered one of the greatest in skill as logic just doesn't support it. He didn't have time to go through extensive enough training in the 40's to be a master in the same way that Iron Fist or Shang Chi who trained from childhood are. And his training would have been limited by what constituted "the best" in 1940 America. And even since his revival, we have never seen him seeking out more exoteric training or continuing training at dojos or even boxing gyms, instead, he's usually training others, mostly in fighting opponents strategically and basic martial arts moves (real martial arts training is more than a few kicks, blocks and throws). Even his war-time experiences cannot really be used as support as we've never really seen him fighting skilled hand-to-hand opponents

He should be considered good at several styles such as boxing and judo, and mixed with his military training and super-soldier serum, it pushes him over the top in efficiency, speed, stamina, and power. While there are better pure martial artists if they were fighting for points, Cap has the edge physically. He has the strength and speed to take an opponent out first and the stamina to outlast if it comes to that.

Likewise, Taskmaster shouldn't really rate more highly as he's severely limited in one capacity. The bulk of his skill and his deadliness is through mimicry. This gives him an edge in a short fight or mediocre opponents. But a long fight with the likes of Iron Fist or Shang Chi and they'd have the upper hand just because their skill is through actual training and grounding in the basics behind the flashy moves and thus better able to improvise against unexpected moves and situations.

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