Captain America >> View Post
·
Post By
DragynWulf

In Reply To
Ed Love

Subj: Re: It is because he isn't a master at every form of combat...
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 01:02:18 pm CDT (Viewed 1 times)
Reply Subj: Re: It is because he isn't a master at every form of combat...
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 09:42:21 am CDT (Viewed 1 times)

Previous Post

> > why do the new marvel hanfbooks state that Cap is a 6 instead of a 7. For the longest time he has been a 7. Taskmaster is a 7, red skull just got a 6, and Cap is shown at being a 6. Why the change?
>
> It isn't a change. It is only defining it more is all. Captain America is not a master in all forms of combat, he is a master in several forms, but not all forms. Taskmaster, due to his Photographic Reflexes, is a master in all forms of combat. If there was a new one that suddenly emerged, he could master it within seconds/minutes, while Captain America would have to train hard at it, taking months/years to master. Remember, what took Captain America years to master (throwing his sheild for example), Taskmaster mastered just by watching him once.
>
I've always argued that Cap shouldn't be considered one of the greatest in skill as logic just doesn't support it. He didn't have time to go through extensive enough training in the 40's to be a master in the same way that Iron Fist or Shang Chi who trained from childhood are. And his training would have been limited by what constituted "the best" in 1940 America. And even since his revival, we have never seen him seeking out more exoteric training or continuing training at dojos or even boxing gyms, instead, he's usually training others, mostly in fighting opponents strategically and basic martial arts moves (real martial arts training is more than a few kicks, blocks and throws). Even his war-time experiences cannot really be used as support as we've never really seen him fighting skilled hand-to-hand opponents

He should be considered good at several styles such as boxing and judo, and mixed with his military training and super-soldier serum, it pushes him over the top in efficiency, speed, stamina, and power. While there are better pure martial artists if they were fighting for points, Cap has the edge physically. He has the strength and speed to take an opponent out first and the stamina to outlast if it comes to that.

Likewise, Taskmaster shouldn't really rate more highly as he's severely limited in one capacity. The bulk of his skill and his deadliness is through mimicry. This gives him an edge in a short fight or mediocre opponents. But a long fight with the likes of Iron Fist or Shang Chi and they'd have the upper hand just because their skill is through actual training and grounding in the basics behind the flashy moves and thus better able to improvise against unexpected moves and situations.

Golden-age hero and villain encyclopedia: www.geocities.com/cash_gorman

http://hero-goggles.blogspot.com/

> Likewise, Taskmaster shouldn't really rate more highly as he's severely limited in one capacity. The bulk of his skill and his deadliness is through mimicry.
>

Once he views it, he is a master of it. No matter what kind of combat it might be. It could even be a Kree style of fighting and once he views it, is a master of it. That really isn't being limited at all, but having the widest range of fighting skills in the Marvel Universe.

>This gives him an edge in a short fight or mediocre opponents. But a long fight with the likes of Iron Fist or Shang Chi and they'd have the upper hand just because their skill is through actual training and grounding in the basics behind the flashy moves and thus better able to improvise against unexpected moves and situations.
>

Taskmaster is able to combine everything he knows and isn't just limited to one movement or style during a fight. He can combine everything he knows no matter if it is skills from Iron Fist, Captain America, Elektra, Shang-Chi, Daredevil or a movie by Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, or Jet Li.

The only reason why he loses, is because he is the villain and the title of the comic is not named after him. A character of his skill should win everytime in a fight, but because he is the villain, he is also used as being smart to compensate. He'd rather run instead of take a "chance" at losing, even though he should actually win. So by having him play it safe, the fact that he should win everytime is removed, because he escapes instead of finishing the fight.

Have a Nice Day!
-DragynWulf






Posted with Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 on Windows XP
Alvaro's Comicboards powered by On Topic™ © 2003-2022 Powermad Software
All the content of these boards Copyright © 1996-2022 by Comicboards/TVShowboards. Software Copyright © 2003-2022 Powermad Software