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gumbo

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Keith

Subj: Re: Well, Thor is a copy of his Norse mythological counterpart from real history...
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 08:38:04 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Well, Thor is a copy of his Norse mythological counterpart from real history...
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 05:47:38 pm EDT

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You don't make a very compelling argument. Thor in the conext of a comic was an original. Using an "archetype" in a contemporary medium is not the same kind of hackneyed writing as taking that concept and copying it in the same medium over and over. Thor-girl, Cyborg Thor, Future Thor, Norvell Thor, etc. etc. It is uncreative writing. Instead of creating context and depth for the original concept of Thor, the writers say...let's make a cyborg, let's make a human copy, let's (fill in the blank).

And by the way, I do see copies everywhere. And I hate them everywhere. If I see one original idea in a movie, I don't need another 10 that are for all purporses the same. If there is a successful tv show, I don't like seeing literal 40 or 50 knock-offs of the same idea. If I drive to a small town, I don't like seeing it swamped with the same soul-numbing ubiquitous chain stores.



> > Over at Marvel.com, the official stat for BRB for energy projection is 7, but for Thor it is only 6. At a minimum, Thor has the godblast (most potent attack) which BRB has never been shown to possess. Personally, I hate any type of copies to begin with, but it is really an insult to make the derivative character more powerful than the original.
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> So do you hate Marvel Thor too? Hating copies can really limit your scope of comic reading because I bet tons of characters you read are copies of another at some point. Heck Superman was a copy of a character in a book called Gladiator. Bill in his first appearance looks and acts and has none of the same powers as Thor. He's a completely different character. Odin saw him fit to bestow the power's of his son on him because he was such a noble being (and so that Thor could still be Thor). Bill's a pretty terrific character take a look at him through some un-jaded glasses and you might see something you like.
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> "An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded."

Thor in the context of a comic wasn't original; he wasn't the first mythologically based hero or god to ever appear in comics, heck not even the first time the god Thor ever appeared in comics.

He bore some similarities to Captain Marvel, lightning signaling appearance, his alter ego like Captain Marvel Jr. was lame of leg.

He had the same color code as Superman for all intents and purposes, plus that cape.

Hardly the first uber powerful or plot device hero that used an item of some kind to draw his power from.

Fact is; like it or not the comic Thor is a knock off of the original mythological Thor with a little bit here and there thrown in from other sources.


> You don't make a very compelling argument. Thor in the conext of a comic was an original. Using an "archetype" in a contemporary medium is not the same kind of hackneyed writing as taking that concept and copying it in the same medium over and over. Thor-girl, Cyborg Thor, Future Thor, Norvell Thor, etc. etc. It is uncreative writing. Instead of creating context and depth for the original concept of Thor, the writers say...let's make a cyborg, let's make a human copy, let's (fill in the blank).
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> And by the way, I do see copies everywhere. And I hate them everywhere. If I see one original idea in a movie, I don't need another 10 that are for all purporses the same. If there is a successful tv show, I don't like seeing literal 40 or 50 knock-offs of the same idea. If I drive to a small town, I don't like seeing it swamped with the same soul-numbing ubiquitous chain stores.
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> > > Over at Marvel.com, the official stat for BRB for energy projection is 7, but for Thor it is only 6. At a minimum, Thor has the godblast (most potent attack) which BRB has never been shown to possess. Personally, I hate any type of copies to begin with, but it is really an insult to make the derivative character more powerful than the original.
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> > So do you hate Marvel Thor too? Hating copies can really limit your scope of comic reading because I bet tons of characters you read are copies of another at some point. Heck Superman was a copy of a character in a book called Gladiator. Bill in his first appearance looks and acts and has none of the same powers as Thor. He's a completely different character. Odin saw him fit to bestow the power's of his son on him because he was such a noble being (and so that Thor could still be Thor). Bill's a pretty terrific character take a look at him through some un-jaded glasses and you might see something you like.
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> > "An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded."


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