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Subj: Re: For Epyon from below on the hulk buster armor
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 09:21:13 pm EDT
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 09:10:01 pm EDT

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"Why I think the HB armor is slow (I'm talking reaction time and agility, not flight speed)"

Firstly I am talking all 3. Flight I will take it that you concede he is no slower. Reaction time - Tony is supposed to have increased reaction time now. As a matter of fact he would have to to have all these super-speed feets he seems to be racking up. Which means he still has that reaction time in the suit. Which seeing as the Extremis upgrade allows him to access and control all kinds of electronic gizmos (including presumably those he built with the intention of controlling them) he should be able to interface with the suit at those same near instantaneous speeds. Which leads us to 3 "agility" by which I presume you mean the ability to move quickly "on the ground". How does Iron Man move in his Extremis suit? Is it Tony's own muscles that make the legs bend at the knees aand his arm cock back to throw a punch? Or is it a case of the mechanics of the suit itself being controlled by Tony which do this and give him the strength to throw a punch as hard as the Thing or at least considerably harder than Tony Stark sans suit? And if that is the case is there any reason to believe that the suits mechanics are slower to react to the thoughts running through Tonys head than his limbs can to the nerve impulses travelling from his brain? Why is it any more difficult to imagine the same can't be said of the Hulk armor?
Or does the Extremis armor slow Tony down also? Would he be even faster without it?

> First, it was shown in WWH #1 to be slow. After Iron Man fired those incendiary missiles at Hulk, Iron Man flies over the burnt out area. He then SEES the Hulk leaping at him. The Hulk is moving slow enough that we SEE his reflection on Iron Man's face plate. Iron Man even has enough time to mutter, "Oh Hell." When wearing his sleek, Extremis armor, Iron Man has a reaction time of .004 seconds (I think DaveyM posted the scan in this thread). Think about that. A reaction time of .004 seconds. That is computer fast. If Iron Man had been wearing Extremis armor, he would have been gone before the Hulk got even close to him.

I addressed this in the posts i linked to before. Please by all means read them.
Here it is again

Second, wearing cumbersome armor makes it more difficult to make use of one's agility. I mean, if you're wearing form-fitting armor, don't you think it's easier to maneuver than if you're wearing a freaking tank? Just LOOK at the Hulkbuster armor. It looks like a box with limbs. Hard to imagine Iron Man dodging or weaving in that contraption.

Again my sme objections as before. Peoples explanation as to why its slower "Just look at it". "Is it easier to maneuver in form-fitting armor than wearing a tank?" Shouldn't the Hulk be slow as hell cos he is a big lumbering giant? I think we can all agree that that is not the case when it comes to the case because unlike the "big lumbering iants we may be familiar with in our everyday lives" Hulk has a strength to bodyweight ratio that is close to infinite. The fact that he weighs a ton or so more than Ben Ulrich or whoever is more than offset by the fact that he is a million times stronger. I'm sure you can see how the same arguments apply to IM.
At any rate my earlier posts on this are contained in this post.


Somebody tell me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Extremis "virus" exists independently of the armor and this abilities should work with any armor, yes? So the only reason the Hulk Buster armor would be slower would be because that actual armor is slower, which is usually the case in comics (stronger = slower). The mechanics of movement are different. Those massive legs can't be too agile.

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