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Daveym

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Fifthchild

Subj: Re: The way I understood Extremis to work is...
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 at 07:48:31 am EDT
Reply Subj: Re: The way I understood Extremis to work is...
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 at 06:21:06 am EDT

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> > ***That it makes Tony's usual armor like an extension of himself. It it isnt like armor anymore but as if it is a part of him. To get into the Hulk Buster armor would be sort of like it was before extremis. It would be slower on account that it doesn't react to his mental/physical commands like his reg armor would case in point. If you are fast athletic person and then one day you have to put on a fat suit...you just aren't going to be as fast as you were without the suit.
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> > That is how I thought it worked anyway.
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> I'm not a guru on extremis but that was my thinking more or less too...
> But i have to add - The thing to bear in mind with speciality suits is that they are speciality for a reason, he uses them for special purposes hence they tend to be very strong in specific areas and utterly lacking in others!
> As an example - (correct my memory if wrong guys >:-| )in the first Michilinie/layton run we were introduced to the stealth armour which was built for espionage and packed with cloaking gear, the offset was that it was badly lacking in weaponry which cost him bigtime in that mission.
> These armours are not a replacement for his regular suit, they are purpose built for a specific job

agreed

> and with this Hulkbuster suit he very likely sacrificed much of the regular suits ability in favor of durability and power, there's no way something that clumsy and unwieldy can be considered 'Fast'

we are arguing over whether or not the suit is fast. You cant use the assumption that the suit is clumsy, unwieldy and slow as the premise for your argument that it is slow.

> when as noted IM was able to see the Hulk leaping at him but unable to dodge quick enough - even an extremis luddite like me knows current IM is quite fast enough to dodge with that amount of warning....
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http://www.comicboards.com/ironman/view.php?rpl=070719074602
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> > and with this Hulkbuster suit he very likely sacrificed much of the regular suits ability in favor of durability and power, there's no way something that clumsy and unwieldy can be considered 'Fast'
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> we are arguing over whether or not the suit is fast. You cant use the assumption that the suit is clumsy, unwieldy and slow as the premise for your argument that it is slow.
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Wrong, i can look at the available evidence and continuity and draw a conclusion from the known facts.
I have seen a lot more evidence that the suit was not up to the mobility standards of a regular suit than i have to suggest it was!
Simply Willing the buster suit to be that fast so that you can win your argument is no way to make a case.

In summary: that speciality suit was something Stark built to deliver a payload of Nanites, that was his chief strategy. He knew though he would have to get in close & personal and need a suit built for protection and power.
If that suit, indeed any speciality suit, was as fast & capable as you wish it were then it would be something he would be utilising a lot more than he does. He would be wearing a variation of that suit as his regular one, it's just common sense.
But as it stands these are only built for specific jobs, they are no replacement for the Versatility, mobility and speed that his regular suit gives him - when he was beaten by Firepower he didn't just build a Big heavily armed suit and retaliate in kind, he instead went for a faster more mobile regular suit as his standard.
When he was beaten by Ultimo he didn't opt for a bulky purpose built suit he instead went for a faster more versatile suit as his standard.... In both of these examples he designed the suit to replace his old one as well as adapting them to what actually defeated him.

There is a reason he opts for the regular slimline suit he wears and a reason he only occasionally has to resort to a specially built one and that has a great deal to do with the formers mobility & speed.



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