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Fifthchild

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Jaysin1414

Subj: Re: It's there in black & white...
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 07:29:32 am EDT
Reply Subj: It's there in black & white...
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 at 04:19:49 pm EDT

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The Argonaut was controlled "telepathically" thru Tony's Extremis powers. Both armors are being controlled from the same source....it knew what Tony was doing and reacting accordingly.

There is literally NO evidence that the second HB armor has any super-speed at all. For example:

1) The Hulkbuster required rockets to enhance it's punching speed and power, Extremis (be it standard or Argonaut) do not.

2) It demonstrated NO ability to dodge any of the Hulk's punches. Both standard Extremis (dodging Mallen and Spider-Man EASILY) and Argonauts (gained upper hand on Namor underwater, avoided FF in air, avoided Iron Man's punches) DEMONSTRATE great speed and agility.

3) Hulkbuster was unfinished. In Iron Man #18, Tony states he wishes he had more time to finish it.

4) Hulkbuster did not demonstrate ANY of the Extremis armors other capabilities: Stealth, full-spectrum Repulsor, Mechanical Intuition, Healing (Tony and suit), etc. Isn't it more realistic to surmise that if it doesn't have any of the other Extremis Armor abilities, that it proably doesn't have ANY of them at all, than to assume (even though it's NEVER demonstrated super-speed or reflexes) to assume it has just one of them (speed)? It's like hearing hoofsteps and expecting to see a zebra...when the evidence is leading s to believe that it's just a horse. It's most likely a heavy-duty nanite delivery device, designed to let Tony get in close to the Hulk to deliver the silver bullet. Sabotage and betrayal foiled its test run...but that's okay. We all love the Hulk too and don't necessarily want to see him killed in his own mini-series.


> The Argonaut was controlled "telepathically" thru Tony's Extremis powers. Both armors are being controlled from the same source....it knew what Tony was doing and reacting accordingly.

As I said elsewhere if you could read Supermans mind and know what his next move was gonna be how long do you think you woul last before he hit you. Or The Flash if the flying thing distracts from the argument.

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> There is literally NO evidence that the second HB armor has any super-speed at all. For example:
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> 1) The Hulkbuster required rockets to enhance it's punching speed and power, Extremis (be it standard or Argonaut) do not.
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> 2) It demonstrated NO ability to dodge any of the Hulk's punches. Both standard Extremis (dodging Mallen and Spider-Man EASILY) and Argonauts (gained upper hand on Namor underwater, avoided FF in air, avoided Iron Man's punches) DEMONSTRATE great speed and agility.

Tony never attempted to doge a blow. He rushed headlong to meet Hulk and deliver the nanites while Hulk pounded on the armor. He then punhed Hulk away. After that the rest of their fight takes place with Hulk right on top of him as the building comes down on them....no chance to dodge in that situation.

> 3) Hulkbuster was unfinished. In Iron Man #18, Tony states he wishes he had more time to finish it.

I agree.

> 4) Hulkbuster did not demonstrate ANY of the Extremis armors other capabilities: Stealth, full-spectrum Repulsor, Mechanical Intuition, Healing (Tony and suit), etc. Isn't it more realistic to surmise that if it doesn't have any of the other Extremis Armor abilities, that it proably doesn't have ANY of them at all, than to assume (even though it's NEVER demonstrated super-speed or reflexes) to assume it has just one of them (speed)?

I dont think so and as I have been pointing out in every post there is no logical reason to believe it doesn't have them.
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> It's like hearing hoofsteps and expecting to see a zebra...when the evidence is leading s to believe that it's just a horse. It's most likely a heavy-duty nanite delivery device, designed to let Tony get in close to the Hulk to deliver the silver bullet. Sabotage and betrayal foiled its test run...but that's okay. We all love the Hulk too and don't necessarily want to see him killed in his own mini-series.
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