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The Last Word

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Kwan jang Nim

Subj: Whoops. You're correct - Cage hit Rom and slightly damaged his propulsion unit.
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 10:01:40 am EST
Reply Subj: Re: Years ago, when they first met, Cage shrugged off a direct shot.
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 08:20:11 pm EST

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> > > It's been awhile since I read it (it came out in the 70's, when I bought it off the rack) but Iron Fist couldn't harm him.
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> > > This is a bit of exageration, Cage did get up and was not out, but it definitely hurt him and knocked him into the brownstone across the street so hard that the entire building collapsed on him. Whenever a character is hit and goes flying like that it is akin to rolling with the punch and they are not taking the full force of the strike. Even after he came back fighting, it was stated that Danny was holding back from using lethal force against Cage because he didn't believe Cage was a killer despite his beserker rage.
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> I meant Cage got up from the shot and was able to keep fighting. IF was also punked by Warhawk, seconds after hitting him with the iron fist. Cage later pummelled Warhawk.

> I remember that one, Jo Duffy really dropped down the power of the iron fist and made Danny a pretty impotent fighter under her as well. It should be noted though that Danny KO'ed Warhawk (while drugged) without using the iron fist in PM/IF#76 under Claremont.

> IF hit Rom (who he believed to be a robot) and did slight damage to his spaceknight armor.

> IIRC (and I'm pretty sure I do), Danny never hit Rom with the iron fist, he charged it up, but Rom used his neutralizer to cancel it. Danny did throw Rom around a bit using leverage, but it did no damage.


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> > In the pics Daveym posted below it shows a scene from PM/IF#116 in which Danny hits Cage w/ the iron fist to the head and not only scores a clean KO, but remarks that it was a good thing he pulled that punch or else he would have taken Luke's head clean off. Also it should be noted that when Munzo had stolen the iron fist, he beat Cage with ease and was about to kill him until the other heroes stepped in.
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> > Cage is the type of character whose durability outstrips his strength level. He has Class 25 strength, but his durability rivals that of many Class 100's. Still, Danny has KO'ed Colossus, Bres (who went toe-to-toe with Thor, and Hercules with one shot before. He has also broken the Crimson Bands, stopped an oncoming train, shattered Thunderball's wrecking ball (which took an incredibly enraged Hulk and a full out Hercules to do), and even hit the giant demon Soulslayer so hard that the shockwave and fallout from the blow destroyed Feng Tu (a NYC-sized city) "as if an H-Bomb had hit it". When sparring with Sue Richards, Danny "slipped" and hit her field with the iron fist and she remarked that it was a good thing he pulled that shot at the last second or her field may not have withstood it.
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> > Danny's power is an extension of his miond and is basically as powerful as he wants it to be (even stated by IW as she noted the similarity of their powers). On IF's low end showings, Cage can withstand one body shot, but not a second one (which Danny can and has done numerous times BTW), this was clearly shown in Cage's fight with Munzo. Luke can not withstand a single shot to the head or face without being KO'ed or killed (as shown in PM/IF#116). If Danny is going full out in his high end showings, Luke doesn't stand a chance.
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> > Of course, this is all IF at his classic levels. Now he has both absorbed Orson Randall's chi and added it to his own, plus is learning how to really use his powers by studying the Book of the Iron Fist, it's a whole different ballgame.
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> > > > How would a battle between the "Iron Fist" go, if against the "Steel hard skin?"

> > > > It's been awhile since I read it (it came out in the 70's, when I bought it off the rack) but Iron Fist couldn't harm him.
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> > > > This is a bit of exageration, Cage did get up and was not out, but it definitely hurt him and knocked him into the brownstone across the street so hard that the entire building collapsed on him. Whenever a character is hit and goes flying like that it is akin to rolling with the punch and they are not taking the full force of the strike. Even after he came back fighting, it was stated that Danny was holding back from using lethal force against Cage because he didn't believe Cage was a killer despite his beserker rage.
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> > I meant Cage got up from the shot and was able to keep fighting. IF was also punked by Warhawk, seconds after hitting him with the iron fist. Cage later pummelled Warhawk.
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> > I remember that one, Jo Duffy really dropped down the power of the iron fist and made Danny a pretty impotent fighter under her as well. It should be noted though that Danny KO'ed Warhawk (while drugged) without using the iron fist in PM/IF#76 under Claremont.
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> > IF hit Rom (who he believed to be a robot) and did slight damage to his spaceknight armor.
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> > IIRC (and I'm pretty sure I do), Danny never hit Rom with the iron fist, he charged it up, but Rom used his neutralizer to cancel it. Danny did throw Rom around a bit using leverage, but it did no damage.
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> > > In the pics Daveym posted below it shows a scene from PM/IF#116 in which Danny hits Cage w/ the iron fist to the head and not only scores a clean KO, but remarks that it was a good thing he pulled that punch or else he would have taken Luke's head clean off. Also it should be noted that when Munzo had stolen the iron fist, he beat Cage with ease and was about to kill him until the other heroes stepped in.
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> > > Cage is the type of character whose durability outstrips his strength level. He has Class 25 strength, but his durability rivals that of many Class 100's. Still, Danny has KO'ed Colossus, Bres (who went toe-to-toe with Thor, and Hercules with one shot before. He has also broken the Crimson Bands, stopped an oncoming train, shattered Thunderball's wrecking ball (which took an incredibly enraged Hulk and a full out Hercules to do), and even hit the giant demon Soulslayer so hard that the shockwave and fallout from the blow destroyed Feng Tu (a NYC-sized city) "as if an H-Bomb had hit it". When sparring with Sue Richards, Danny "slipped" and hit her field with the iron fist and she remarked that it was a good thing he pulled that shot at the last second or her field may not have withstood it.
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> > > Danny's power is an extension of his miond and is basically as powerful as he wants it to be (even stated by IW as she noted the similarity of their powers). On IF's low end showings, Cage can withstand one body shot, but not a second one (which Danny can and has done numerous times BTW), this was clearly shown in Cage's fight with Munzo. Luke can not withstand a single shot to the head or face without being KO'ed or killed (as shown in PM/IF#116). If Danny is going full out in his high end showings, Luke doesn't stand a chance.
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> > > Of course, this is all IF at his classic levels. Now he has both absorbed Orson Randall's chi and added it to his own, plus is learning how to really use his powers by studying the Book of the Iron Fist, it's a whole different ballgame.
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> > > > > How would a battle between the "Iron Fist" go, if against the "Steel hard skin?"


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