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vermin

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Braugi

Subj: I saw the scans, and he played the role Sentry has been playing with the Mighty Avengers.
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 at 01:39:09 pm EDT (Viewed 76 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Well if you include Ion/Sodam Yat in the list of Herald Busters, Mongul with the rings...
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 at 01:32:53 pm EDT



Did NOTHING.

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> > > > > Thanks to vermin for bringing this up yesterday.
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> > > > > Now I want to populate it. Basically, just think of a character who, without too much effort, annihilates a herald character or battles a group of heralds and prime metas.
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> > > > Using just the definitions above...
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> > > > Post power-up Nefaria
> > > Yes
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> > > > WWIII Black Adam (he did battle the combined JLA & JSA teams to a draw)
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> > > Yeah, but he had similar showings before, under his own power IIRC...
> > > with Isis' power he SHOULD be, but didn't show anything more than his normal levels used effectively IMO.
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> > > > Graviton
> > > He had one good showing in Thunderbolts where he blindsided all the worlds heroes, but aside from that, he's done nothing out of line with a high end Surfer or Thor issue. Thor has defeated him head to head as well.
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> > > All in all, with his high end showings factored in, he's a solid herald IMO.
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> > > >
> > > > Red Hulk (qualifies under the "without too much effort annihilates a herald level character" part of your defintion)
> > > >
> > > Yeah
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> > > > Sentry pre-Mighty Avengers (he did annihilate Terrax...)
> > > even post Mighty Avengers is somewhat ambiguous, so yeah, Sentry is there
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> > > > Onslaught
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> > > > 8th Day Juggernaut
> > > maybe
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> > > > Mongul with yellow rings
> > > >
> > > maybe a low end
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> > ... should be even higher based on his performance against the same Sodam who was also at the time backed up in that fight by some top tier GLs.
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> I haven't read it yet, but I'd still be inclined to think that Yat is more powerful, if less effective. Yat has superspeed (which I doubt he used against Mongul) that Mongul doesn't have an answer to, along with comparable strength, similar stacked durability,and comparably EP.
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> Yat is, IMO, BARELY above the limit based on his powerset, though he seemed to do fairly well against Superman Prime. Both of these are pretty questionable, but its really the stacked durability that might make the difference. Yat's capacity for using superspeed almost certainly cements him there, even if he doesn't use the power often.
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> > Spoilers from GL Corps #26 below:
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> > http://www.comicboards.com/app/show.php?msg=comicbattles-2008072402272412&search=Maestro
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> > >
> > > > KC Superman (may be borderline here)
> > > IMO he's a high end herald.
> > > >
> > > > Black Mary (before losing her powers in defeating Eclypso)
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> > > maybe...maybe top end herald...at best the bottom end of this category...Isis' powers didn't seem to make her stronger, faster, or more durable, just add a significant amount of other mystic powers, which makes her more like Thor or Surfer, who has comparable physical stats and huge levels of EP as well...such capacity would move a mid range herald like Mary, CM, or even Superman to the top tier category IMO, but because of the combat speed advantage MAY put her slightly over the edge...
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> > > > War Hulk
> > > yes
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> > > > World War Hulk
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> > > herald
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> > > > > Agree/Disagree and add more!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanos (for pwning SS among other)
> > > > > Fernus (for pwning Supes among others)
> > > > > Mordru
> > > > > Durok
> > > > > Desak
> > > > > Morg WOL
> > > > > Lord Tantalus
> > > > > Titannus
> > > > > Cyborg Supes w/rings
> > > > > PE Zuras
> > > > > Tyrant
> > > > > Highfather
> > > > > Takion
> > > > > The Doctor
> > > > > Dr. Manhatten
> > > > > Solar
> > > > > Superboy Prime
> > > > > Ion Sodam Yat
> > > > > Karnilla
> > > > > Monarch
> > > > > Molecule Man
> > > > > HP Doomsday
> > > > > Phoenix (GOTG)
> > > > > The Void
> > > > > Super Adaptoid
> > > > > Amazo
> > > > > Annihilus (Annihilation)
> > > > > Afro Magus
> > > > > Runner
> > > > > Grandmaster
> > > > > Champion w/gem
> > > > > Mangog (recent)
> > > > > Destroyer
> > > > > Despero (V&V)
> > > >

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