Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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bd2999
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Braugi

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Subj: Re: on power levels, fights etc....
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 at 10:34:17 am EDT (Viewed 83 times)
Reply Subj: on power levels, fights etc....
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 at 08:53:25 am EDT (Viewed 134 times)



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    I take it all with a grain of salt. In the live action stuff, its at least implied that Scarlet Witch and Captain Marvel are tops, but you could make some arguments otherwise.


I think that is best but this is the first conflict we have had between characters like that.

I mean the SW vs Hulk was not bad. It assumed Hulk lost I think and that seemed about right. In the films I would agree that it is those two, but SW is something of a glass cannon.


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    In the what ifs, Thanos seemed kind of wimpy compared to the guys who worked for him in the mainstream MCU when T'challa became Starlord...certainly didn't seem like someone who could beat down the Hulk.


True, although his motivation was different and not sure if the BO turned on him how he would do. He was fairly limited in the movies in many respects. The one guy with telekinesis hypothetically could have done similar to what SW was doing to him if he was not a devotee.


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    That said, I thought the episode did a good job at keeping it vague enough and treating both characters with respect....much like the Thor vs. Iron Man vs. captain America fight in Avengers, and the Thor vs. Hulk fights


Yeah, although in those there were clear ways the fights were going. They just did not reach conclusions. Which is for the best.


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    I do think the choice in the MCU to try to make CM and Wanda potentially clearly tops is a questionable one. I also think Endgame did a disservice to Hulk, and never gave him the chance to redeem himself as a physical powerhouse.


I do not think it is bad to have them as powerhouses IMO. I just thing it is wrong to have them on a different tier. SW to me is less of an issue than CM. As CM is so powerful than Thanos cannot even hurt her without an infinity stone. I get having her powerful, but to me that is too much.

Hulk got a lifting feat and the gauntlet, but I do agree with you that Hulk got shafted in Endgame. Thor got the fat thing and was the fool but did some cool things even if I thought he should have looked a bit better. Hulk is part of the main team and founders. I figured he was going to show up at some point and at least get a punch or so in.


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    I have always felt the best way to handle it was to make Hulk pretty clearly the strongest, most durable, fastest healer, CM have better EP, speed, etc. with Thor being the best all arounder, so a reasonable argument could be made for any of them being the most powerful...throw Wanda into the mix as maybe even the most versatile with EP, but no durability and strength....fine....but that is a discussion for a different time.


I mean I think that is reasonable honestly. I honestly think that CM grates on me so much because her story was very weak, she is not shown as that likable and she is given great power to just sort of have it.

With her level of power at the moment she is more like Sentry in the end and may work better as a villain of sorts.






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