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Subj: Re: Pence Stands With Traitorous Trump!
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 at 12:34:06 pm EDT (Viewed 655 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Pence Stands With Traitorous Trump!
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 at 10:01:01 pm EDT (Viewed 710 times)
Quote:I wonder how people will react when it becomes illegal to worship God in THEIR way, if that ever comes to pass...
Quote:Rather than name calling ("anti-gay racist moron", "responsible for aids", "evil"), is there any *policy* you would like to discuss?
Quote:Let's start with this....What do you have to demonstrate that Pence wants to install an official religion, and make all other religions illegal?
This later point is something of a straw man argument. It would require something akin to finding a letter where that is writen out. I have seen others make that claim as the only way to be sure that somebody is racist. If that is our standard than few would be guilty of much of anything.
Having lived in Indiana for some time it was always clear that Pence is a very religious man and very much a religious conservative.
I am not sure he wants Christianity to be a state religion per se but he wants his view of Christianity to be what guides policy.
In 2002 he went to the House floor and asked that science textbooks promote creationism but casting doubt on Evolution.
RFRA. A law that was not really needed but was pretty vague in wording to allow people to potentially say hateful things at gay people etc. This was a major issue in Indiana. They put a patch on it but it was a minor fix at best. It had no purpose other than to make sure that the right to dehumanize another person was ok. For whatever reason, dislike of homosexuality has become the core Christian value in some part of the country.
In the ongoing HIV/AIDs epidemic in the state he had to be dragged along to open needle exchanges. When he did do it, it was underfunded and staffed. The State Health secretary was pretty mad at him. As it likely made it worse. His reasons for this were shared by many pasturs and the like that these people did it to themselves and basically brought it on themselves. He did not say that, but he was doing everything that those folks were recommending until backlash was high enough.
In the past he has blocked federal funding to help combat HIV unless statements about gay sex were not included. The big bug a boo among some religious conservatives. Ignoring that this disease can be passed on with any sex.
He has been against homosexuals in the military
He has been against condoms because they were a poor defense against STDs and is a massive supporter of abstinence only education.
So, while I am unaware that he has specifically said that Christianity should be the state religion. It is pretty clear that he puts his faith above the personal rights of any group that gets in his way.
“I’m a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order,”
There is nothing illegal or wrong with being guided by faith. Many are and it helps guide their views. However, they also tend to be the most rigid holders to their views because in their minds it came from God.
And that alone is concerning enough or should be. Anybody thinking they have a mandate to basically tell everybody they should live the life by the morality of a specific faith is a problem.
I mean there are many in religious right circles that would be just fine running the US under a version of Christian law. Yet fewer freak out about that than the falw Shiara law scares.
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