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Subj: Re: You do realize that Galactus' Annihilation capture retconned a clonable Galactus, right?
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 at 04:57:59 am EDT (Viewed 23 times)
Reply Subj: Re: You do realize that Galactus' Annihilation capture retconned a clonable Galactus, right?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 at 09:52:39 pm EDT (Viewed 31 times)

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    I know this is a lousy idea and one of Jim Starlin's worst concepts but as far as I'm aware it's still canon that Galactus has cloneable DNA.

    Given this, when Thanos subjected the captured Galactus to extensive physiological study in Annihilation, he had the opportunity to harvest a lot of his DNA and store it in a safe place should he ever wish to do some more cloning.

    I'm not saying I like the thought, but don't be too suprised if this storyline surfaces in the future.

Thanos himself revealed that biology isn't the source or method of storage for the Power Cosmic in Annihilation.

If this is the case, cloning Galactus DNA (a dubious concept for an energy being regardless) wouldn't reproduce Galactus...or his power.

Thanos and Annihilus on the nature of Galactus' power:
Thanos, "You asked for the biological application of cosmic power. But biology presumes flesh... there are cosmic entities that are not of biology, beings of inert matter or pure energy. Once imbued with cosmic energy, form adapts to function. Biology is the least of it. Life force, of the other hand, there are the answers we seek. We were blinded by our own arrogance--we are of biology so therefore cosmic energy must be of biology as well. Cosmic energy is not of biology."

Annihilus, "What then!? What else is there!?"

Thanos, "Call it what you will: aura, energy field, luminescence... call it a soul if it suits you. Cosmic energy is of life force, the singular energy that powers all life -- biological or otherwise."

Annihilus, "It bonds with our auras...?"

Thanos, "No. It replaces our auras. Cosmic power acts as an energy parasite, for lack of a better term. Once imbued with cosmic energy, the individual form adapts to accommodate its function. This explains why no two wielders of the Power Cosmic resemble one another except in the most superficial of ways. Galactus does not absorb cosmic energy into his form. He absorbs it into his life force, his aura. The aura feeds the biology, but the biology has NOTHING to do with controlling or storing the Power Cosmic."

I can't help but think Giffen wrote this explanation in direct response to Starlin's Galactus cloning. It genuinely seems tailor made to retcon the idea that cloning the "DNA" of a cosmic being will result in reproducing that being's power.

Nevermind the fact that a being whose "biology" consists of raw energy, of metaphysical property itself, should not even have DNA to clone and it's pretty clear Starlin had a real brain-fart.

It needs to be revealed that Galactus tricked Thanos into sampling DNA Galactus himself created to throw Thanos off from learning anything about his true nature.

Infinity Abyss was mainly to reestablish certain things about Thanos, per Jim Starlin the creator of the character. After the previous three Infinity series, Thanos had changed a bit, then suddenly he's out to destroy the universe again under other writers.

Starlin comes back and uses the cloning concept which was okay up until the Galactus clone, the Omega. Thanos stated it was a scientific challenge that he could not walk away from, to combine Galactus "DNA" with his own DNA, he never intended for Omega to be activated at all and realized what a mistake it was in the first place.

Cloning Galactus was indeed dumb, Thanos being sneaky and obtaining "DNA" from Galactus was similar to how he siphoned off properties of Warlock's soul gem to create the synthetic gem he used to blow up suns.

Still I like Starlin and most of his work, but he definitely wasn't up to his usual snuff on Infinity Abyss, and it's too bad that Marvel: THE END has been retconned into being an alternate universe since it brought Thanos full circle. He realized the folly of seeking absolute power yet knew he was the only one up to the task of restoring the universal balance, which was a condition that was the reason for DEATH to revive Thanos back in the Surfer series. "More beings alive now then have ever died, all across the universe". In the end it was an imbalance due to all the resurrections of heroes (notice that villains don't get blamed)

Still it's only a matter of time before Thanos returns, too bad that Starlin is done with Marvel thanks to Joe Q.

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