Previous Post I am not reading Ultimates, and only know what I read on the board since well, I really liked the old universe. So, if this is iteration 8 of the universe and its not just a modification of 7, but a new universe of its own, it has a whole back history to the big bang, correct? If thats true, why are order and chaos just know killing the living tribunal? Wouldnt they have figured that out a few million years ago? And if its just an alteration to iteration 7, (which is the way it seems) then continuity really makes no sense on a number of points. At least DC gave us "the history of the DC universe" book right after COIE. We got nothing except confusion. Which is it?

Universe 8 it is. It's made from different isos and makes objects more powerful.

Another thing of note is that majority of history is the same but added characters from different worlds. Marvels earth is prime earth now, not 616.

There's some universes that nevervwas restored and some destroyed in a different way that didn't require incursions.

San the battle world ship people, 05 xmen, Dr strange, doom, the ffm the rest onnearth are copies.


The abstracts are fighting in the concept realm of the Superflow. The rules are different now regardless if abstracts are unaware of that.


Maker is going to collaspe the multiverse into one universe, making enitity stronger. Note not a merge of history or end of earths, think possibly one universe...infinte earths soon.

With a new abstract order.