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Thatguy

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TJ Burns

Subj: Re: bad guys doing bad things???
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 02:06:54 pm CDT
Reply Subj: Re: bad guys doing bad things???
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 03:12:25 pm CDT

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> ok when was the last time you read a comic where the crime being commited by the villain wasnt superhero assualt??? when was the last bank robbery you saw in a comic? last jewelry store heist? bascially 99.9% of all the plots in comics is villain goes after hero. to what end ??? to give them a good smack? honestly when was thr last crime you saw in comic that didnt involve getting to hero in some way?

That's just it: The Rogues were those guys! We DID see them committing robberies and raising heck for money.

> and heroes die all the time (they just come back to life later) the rest of them dont go on the warpath every time heck when blue beetle died they hardly noticed when hawkman was seemingly killed right before the ttitle switched to hawkgirl

Well, Hawkman's friends and family DID know he wasn't dead and was getting revenge himself. \:\)

> the JSA didnt decend on ST roch en mass and turn the city upside down .

Because they were in on it. At least Dr. Fate was. \:\)

> the bataquad didnt move heaven and earth to take down black mask after spoiler was killed. and you would think her boyfriend robin would have done something.

That was just... well, stupid. I refuse to attempt to apply logic to War Games. \:\)

> the huge hero manhunt for the rogues?? where is it? how is part of it?
> wondergirl, who swore revenge? robin? 2 of barts closest friends? has jay garrick been running all around tracking them down the killer of the guy he considered like a son to him and his wife? how about liberty belle/jesse quick? has she done anything to bring her former speed force team mates killers to justice? so far wally got inertia thats it. ? any hint of either the jla or jsa putting the rogue manhunt on their to do list? life goes on

Because someone else got them first. (It's the point of an entire miniseries coming out later this year.) No point in SHOWING a manhunt that's going to fail because the villains involved are already light-years away after being taken into government custody. We've already seen the Suicide Squad trying to take down the villains involved in Countdown, so it's actually exactly as bad for them as I said it was. Worse... I never considered that their own allies would turn them in, and that's exactly what the Penguin did to Trickster and Piper.

> what about when iris allen was killed? i dont relly remeber the story too well but i do remeber that the JLA was more concerned with barry stopping and dealing with his loss then forming a posse. i remeber a cool issue where barry took on a few JLAers when they tried to stop him from doing something .

Barry had wiped out Professor Zoom by the very next issue, and he was killed AGAIN almost immediately upon revealing he'd survived being disintegrated in a time-bubble before Barry's eyes. (And even though that's true, the Green Lantern Corps made an attempt to take him down before Barry had a chance in that issue!) There wasn't much chance to do a manhunt there.

> yeah IC saw mobilization to get Dr light but just about every other storyline heroes are way too busy to really give a crap

Usually, the villain's taken care of before there's a need for a manhunt. War Games is the exception, and, well, even DC realizes that that was a mess.


TJB

> > ok when was the last time you read a comic where the crime being commited by the villain wasnt superhero assualt??? when was the last bank robbery you saw in a comic? last jewelry store heist? bascially 99.9% of all the plots in comics is villain goes after hero. to what end ??? to give them a good smack? honestly when was thr last crime you saw in comic that didnt involve getting to hero in some way?
>
> That's just it: The Rogues were those guys! We DID see them committing robberies and raising heck for money.
>
> > and heroes die all the time (they just come back to life later) the rest of them dont go on the warpath every time heck when blue beetle died they hardly noticed when hawkman was seemingly killed right before the ttitle switched to hawkgirl
>
> Well, Hawkman's friends and family DID know he wasn't dead and was getting revenge himself. \:\)

Nope. Ollie even chewed Carter out for making them go to a needless funeral.
>
> > the JSA didnt decend on ST roch en mass and turn the city upside down .
>
> Because they were in on it. At least Dr. Fate was. \:\)

More like ONLY Dr. Fate was in on it. The entire JSA, Hawkgirl included, thought that Hawkman had been killed.

But in all fairness, the villains in question had a fairly decent plan in place, and well prepared rabbit holes to evade capture. They just didn't count on Hawkman surviving and using his brain to hunt them down.


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