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Thatguy

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TJ Burns

Subj: Re: bad guys doing bad things???
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 09:43:47 pm CDT
Reply Subj: Re: bad guys doing bad things???
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 09:27:33 pm CDT

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> > Well, Hawkman's friends and family DID know he wasn't dead and was getting revenge himself. \:\)
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> Nope. Ollie even chewed Carter out for making them go to a needless funeral.

Yeah, but that's Ollie. \:\) Dr. Fate definitely knew... his participation was key. The whole arc took a very short time at any rate... just a few days. Besides, if my key relatives and allies included Green Arrow, I'd probably lie about anything I needed kept under wraps too. \:\)

> > Because they were in on it. At least Dr. Fate was. \:\)
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> More like ONLY Dr. Fate was in on it. The entire JSA, Hawkgirl included, thought that Hawkman had been killed.

Well, Hawkgirl was definitely decieved. The JSA probably just didn't factor into Hawkman's plan at all... he wasn't a member at the time after all.

> But in all fairness, the villains in question had a fairly decent plan in place, and well prepared rabbit holes to evade capture. They just didn't count on Hawkman surviving and using his brain to hunt them down.

I'll agree there. Didn't Charlie Parker claim to be hunting the villains down himself anyway? (It was a lie, but they had no reason to doubt him.)


TJB

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> > > Well, Hawkman's friends and family DID know he wasn't dead and was getting revenge himself. \:\)
> >
> > Nope. Ollie even chewed Carter out for making them go to a needless funeral.
>
> Yeah, but that's Ollie. \:\) Dr. Fate definitely knew... his participation was key. The whole arc took a very short time at any rate... just a few days. Besides, if my key relatives and allies included Green Arrow, I'd probably lie about anything I needed kept under wraps too. \:\)

Actually, IIRC it took place over a matter of weeks.
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> > > Because they were in on it. At least Dr. Fate was. \:\)
> >
> > More like ONLY Dr. Fate was in on it. The entire JSA, Hawkgirl included, thought that Hawkman had been killed.
>
> Well, Hawkgirl was definitely decieved. The JSA probably just didn't factor into Hawkman's plan at all... he wasn't a member at the time after all.

They weren't in on it either. Wildcat gave Hector some lip about it, IIRC.
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> > But in all fairness, the villains in question had a fairly decent plan in place, and well prepared rabbit holes to evade capture. They just didn't count on Hawkman surviving and using his brain to hunt them down.
>
> I'll agree there. Didn't Charlie Parker claim to be hunting the villains down himself anyway? (It was a lie, but they had no reason to doubt him.)

His 'plan' to the other heroes was to lure the villains back by impersonating Hawkman. I suspect that with the buildup to Crisis and with everything else that was happening, no one really had that much time to devote to the matter, so just deferred to Hawkgirl and Charlie.

With Bart, though, it's different. There's no crisis distracting the heroes, nothing dividing the heroes, all of whom are organized.

Though in fairness, the Rogues used to be organized too. IMO, they should have had a plan in place, in case they killed a Flash.


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