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Subj: Re: Here's a SPOILER FILLED question about the season 3 situation
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 09:09:20 pm BST (Viewed 8 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Here's a SPOILER FILLED question about the season 3 situation
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 at 04:25:33 pm BST (Viewed 616 times)



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      Have the writers ROYALLY messed up?



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    Yep. Completely. Nothing makes any sense.



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    You can't go back and change your own timeline. It's impossible.



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    Best you can do is create a divergent timeline (As Barry explains he's done in Flashpoint). But you couldn't stay in that divergent reality. You'd have to return to your own, where things are unchanged.



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    For example, Barry goes back in time, saves his mother and creates a divergent reality. And then what? There's a young Barry already in existence there who has to grow up. So older Barry goes forward 20 years. But where's the Barry from the divergent timeline? What's happened to him? There should be two Barrys of the same age running around.



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    Time travel on that level is pointless. You can't change your own timeline, and can't stay in a divergent reality, unless it's one where no version of you exists.


Every show/movie/comic does their own separate rules for time travel (it's a fictional concept after all). This show has it's own rules specific to this narrative. Unfortunately even then they're inconsistently applied.



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    But the Barry we've been following for the last three years is a divergent self already. It would be impossible for Reverse Flash to go back and kill Nora Allen in his own timeline. That would cause a paradox. The second Thawne turned up in the past an alternate timeline was created. And that's the one we've been following.


Unless I missed it there's nothing about the Flash TV shows mythology that prevents one from revisiting a moment you've already experienced. Other tv shows may have that rule...but again different shows different rules.

I agree with the second part. Thawne created a new reality when he went back in time and killed Nora the first time around.


Timelines:

1. The original where Future Barry is from (2024?)
2. The one Thawne created by killing Nora...most of season 1. Cisco died.
3. The one where Flash changed the timeline in season 1. Cisco lived.
4. Earth 2
5. Earth 3 (Jay's world)
6. Supergirl Earth (Earth S?)
7. Flashpoint 1.0 the world Barry was in for the most part of the season 3 premiere
8. Flashpoint 2.0...the one at the end of the episode
9. The one where Barry got everyone killed because he couldn't keep his mouth shut about Oliver's kid last year.
10. The one where Pied Piper was good.

While I agree this show sucks at sticking to their own rules...I don't think it's fair to assume the time travel rules for another show apply to this show. Like I kind of take issue with your comment "You can't change your own timeline, and can't stay in a divergent reality, unless it's one where no version of you exists." I agree with the first part but there is to my knowledge nothing that says you can't be in the same reality as your counterpart. Barry met Barry 2. Barry's been in the same room as his past selves.