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Subj: Re: Why did the Flashpoint universe have metahumans at all? Shouldn't it have been the same as the original (i.e. pre-Eobard) timeline?
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 at 08:55:20 am BST (Viewed 785 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Why did the Flashpoint universe have metahumans at all? Shouldn't it have been the same as the original (i.e. pre-Eobard) timeline?
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 at 04:56:25 am BST (Viewed 753 times)



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    Barry is part of the Arrowverse and its stated in Legends of Tomorrow that time will try to correct itself. Rip Hunter says that in trying to change history they will be fighting time itself.


Then why does he even bother trying?

I know. This ridiculous notion that time thinks for itself.

'Time wants this to happen'.

'Time will put it right'.

It's the equivalent of saying: I'm going to kick this ladder away from you. But you may stay suspended there because gravity may not want you to fall at this moment.

In reality, gravity doesn't give a monkeys. And neither does spacetime. Why should it? It doesn't think. it doesn't care. It's just a process.


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    When RF recreates the explosion time used that moment to correct itself and gave Barry back his speed. Not to mention the Speed Force appears to be sentient and would want to exist completely.


So this Speed Force is so powerful it can take down whole universes on a whim? If so, why not ALL universes where it doesn't exist. Are we to assume that in an infinite multiverse there's no version of reality where Barry either doesn't exist or doesn't get his powers?

In an infinite multiverse, everything will happen an infinite amount of times, including universes where the speed force doesn't exist. So why does the speed force get a hissy fit about this one particular universe? It just doesn't make sense. It's simply poor writing.

I've never been comfortable with the whole idea of the speed force. It just seems to me a catch-all explanation for inconsistencies in storytelling, and one which because it's used inconsistently, kind of defeats it's own purpose. For example...if this is a force that can think, why would it allow a being like Zoom or Reverse-Flash access to itself? Or, how does Barry retain his powers in Supergirl's universe, where Barry doesn't have powers (if he even exists there) and the speed force isn't in operation?

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    As the 10th Doctor says, its all timey whimey


I'm with the War Doctor in my dislike of that phrase, I'm afraid.



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