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Subj: Re: The Return of Jay Garrick for December...
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 at 01:53:04 pm EST (Viewed 782 times)
Reply Subj: The Return of Jay Garrick for December...
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 at 10:18:03 am EST (Viewed 803 times)


    The news is a little old by now, but CW has released their official promotional glimpse for 'The Present' which is to be the ninth episode of The Flash this season.


      Barry seeks help from Jay (The Flash) Garrick — With Alchemy and Savitar still looming threats, Barry (Grant Gustin) is unable to focus on the Christmas holiday, and especially his relationship with Iris (Candice Patton). Determined to stop Savitar, Barry goes to Earth-3 to get advice from Jay Garrick (guest star John Wesley Shipp). Wally (Keiynan Lonsdale) wants to help Barry fight Savitar and reveals that he’s been training with H.R. (Tom Cavanagh), which doesn’t go over well with Barry. As Cisco (Carlos Valdes) faces his first Christmas without his brother Dante (guest star Nicholas Gonzalez), old wounds are reopened. Rachel Talalay directed the episode with story by Aaron Helbing & Todd Helbing and teleplay by Lauren Certo (FL309). Original airdate 12/6/2016

    I do like the promised appearance from Jay Garrick as he was swiftly grown on me thanks to the charisma and understated skill of John Wesley Shipp, but thhere is some frustration in that this looks to be not much more than another coffee bar chat... I yearn for something more meaningful than a two-minute drop by.
    Savitar... another evil speedster plot. I have no complaint over the use of Savitar but the repetition of plotlines and characters is reaching a worrying high,...

And the showrunners know this, which is why they introduced Dr. Alchemy as the second big bad this season. But will even that help? Only time will tell...

It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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