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Subj: Re: Sci-Fi/Superhero Cinema #61 - Superman II (1980) and The Richard Donner Cut (2006)
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 at 06:48:04 pm EDT (Viewed 67 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Sci-Fi/Superhero Cinema #61 - Superman II (1980) and The Richard Donner Cut (2006)
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 at 12:54:35 pm EDT (Viewed 80 times)



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    I generally liked this better than the first because we get a real super-villain battle, probably the first of its kind. While the city fight probably doesnt live up to cgi fights of today, it was really a big deal then.

It was the biggest deal of my young life.


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    I also recall a lady in the street holding her shoulder after being hit by debris calling out "help Superman." It was a nice way of showing collateral damage.

There's a woman with a baby stroller who is about to be hit by debris from above and she has time to throw herself over the stroller. I thought why not just roll it out of the way? lol.


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    One of my favourite scenes was the public deciding to take on the bad guys after they think Supes is dead.

It seems cheesy because if the villains can kill Superman then what are a few sticks and stones going to do? But I guess they'd rather go down swinging. There's a scene like this is the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movie where the New Yorkers start throwing trash at the Green Goblin who's messing with Spidey.


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    I was never a bit fan of the love story, which was kind of cheesy. And all of the bizarre powers like the cellophane s, the teleporting and amnesia kiss were not my favs.

I figured the S was something he picked up in space, an advanced weapon or something. But maybe this Superman never went to space.


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    But I did like that Supes had to outthink the villains to defeat them, which made sense. He really should not have been able to beat 3 people with his powers. That he used Luthor's treachery was perfect too.

Luthor is dragged along for the whole movie just because he's needed for this scene. It was a good scene.


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    And I agree that Terrance Stamp is awesome.



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    Only later did I hear about all the Donner turmoil, which was really unnoticable to me at the time.

Yeah, it seemed like a complete movie to me (the theatrical/Lester cut).


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    PS I just saw that the Donner cut changed the classic "General, would you care to step outside?" line, which feels like sacrilidge.

The theatrical is a better line with better timing. Too bad they gave it away in the trailer.




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